Such as?
So it isn’t as common… jammers can be found on more platforms, like those same aircraft that you mention and older ones
ERA, long range Fox 1/2, damn Aesa or whatever it is on pantsir, TWS on SPAA. Missile capable of being fired outside of the range of any SPAA (except for their own). TVC. Ground radar, double mode ATGM (heli). MLRS and afaik Ground radar mode on a plane. Oh yea, TVC missile as well.
Anything US with ALE-47 and 39 could take GEN-X (a lot of jets, and older ones too)
Anything US with ALE-47 can take Britecloud as well.
So it is a very common type of thing
Nope, the rise p was added first…
not a mechanic, also fox ones were in fact introduced first in the us tt…
Nope, the asrads was before.
Not sure how is this a mechanic whatever, but keep in maind that the agm 65d are added before the pantsir, and they easily outranges the tunguska
On helicopoters was added at the same time as the ah64D
The sraams are a thing…
So anything after the 2000s us? the ALE 47 isnt even that old… there is jammers for much older aircrafts.
ALE-39 is from 70’s, and GEN-X is from 80’s
He was supposed to give you the OP stuff the Soviet received first, not only is he mostly wrong on them receiving it first, he is also mostly wrong about it being OP.
The only valid ones are the Khriz bringing a so far exclusive G2G radar to the Soviet tree (very dominant vehicle clearly), and the Pantsir being a semi exclusive, semi threatening SPAA (the Tor was first, but at this point we expected it, and he probably conflates the Soviet and Chinese tree anyway).
His whole shtick is seething about the Soviet tree.
Arent those just for the navy, so not a common system either…
AF and Navy can transfer equipment, and it can interface with ALE-47 to be programmed to match the aircraft
thats just speculation…
It literally says it’s programmable with ALE-47 in brochure
again im saying with the ale 39s, the ale 47 is from the late 90s
We have ALE-47 jets, but yeah unless it’s a later ale-39 I don’t think any USAF jets can take it
GEN-X is still in service too
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yes we have jets with the ale47, but they arent as common as jammer in other aircrafts, even in the US tt there are more things that could have jammers but doesnt have the ale 47, and the things that have the ale 47 can also use jammers.
Again my premise that jammers are more common that ecm decoys is undeniable, btw isnt the gen x a free fall decoy not a towed one?
Yeah your not wrong. But they should at least add the decoys at same time
Oh yea, just casually the only missile you can BVR with. Casually without any bugs and stuff like that, casually having datalink.
It’s a search radar, hardly different from any other.
Nerfed tunguska*
I mean ground to ground.
Everything mentioned gaijin also has tendency of giving other candies while building a gingerbread house for soviets. You know why I forgot that Rise got his ERA first? Because it never mattered, all the problems started when soviets got their magic era with KE protection. Same with Tor. At the same time they had to gimp Hellfires, never give any alternatives to maverics for US, butcher brimmstones and refuse to elaborate why pantsir is still the only spaa capable of suppresing CAS, somewhat.
the data link only improves the launch range otherwise all the impriovemnts over the other fox 1 is dues to the ins, which isnt a common feature on fox 1 missiles to begin with.
the tunguska never had over 10 km of range, even today it gets outranged with agm 65D
And the ground radar of the krizantema or rockets matters a lot… right.
the russians doesnt have the tor in game…
so which is the exact issue of the k-5 having ke protection exactly?, i could understand to desagree with the values, but the k5 does in fact offers ke protection there is nothing magical about it
yeah, like when they got for several moths exclusive use of flares… oh wait that was the us not the ussr
BVR was a meme in the day and age of 100m multipath height.
It’s funny how that got reduced to 60m the very moment ARHs such as AIM-120 were added and western jets got competitive when it comes to that.
ERA at those ranks still matter to this day due to HEAT weapons still being in use.
You forgot how commander override for tanks was added that mostly benefited western tanks, as early USSR tanks didn’t have that option.
Thinking USSR gets privileged treatment is laughable.