what does the Electro-optical APS on the M1A1 HC even protect against? I tested it against vikhrs and few other AGM but it doesn’t seem to work at all. Is this even worth using? Honestly the APS is below useless, and it just act as extra 20 seconds repair time from my experience using it.
It works against earlier ATGMs
So, useless
It works against ATGM that don’t have IRCCM.
The more modetn ones do have IRCCM but older versions like TOW, I-TOW will get distracted
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Active_protection_systems#Electro-optical_APS
This list contains a bunch of the atgms that are jammed by the HC’s APS, although the list might be outdated.
The pattern is that most of the ATGMs that it can jam are only between 7.7-9.7 meaning you will barely face them in the HC.
Gee, how typical.
bro thats so useless, nearly all of those missile is lower br so i dont see it or dont pose a threat. im definitely taking m1a1 HC off from my line up bro, its so ass
yea im realizing it now and wont be using it anymore
what
what what?
pretty much all vehicles that use this type of APS are placed at BRs where their softkill APS is just a gimmick/useless (T-90A/T-80UK and the PUMA aswell i think for example)
Similar to T-90A, their APS only stops the type of missiles they are not going to see in their br, so useless is the right word. And speaking of repair, they do more harm than good since they increase your overall repair time because they stack lol
Only use the HC to replace the SEPV2 in the survivability category as it proved to be better countless times.
They are technically all the same protection-wise, if you play the SEP it’s better you don’t equip the TUSK, it will do you no good other than making you exposed all the time, peek hill you get spotted first and making stealth kills impossible. The SEP still overall better than the HC and M1A2 since they has better sight zoom and higher thermal quality.
The HC get better turret ring protection but worse thermals with the same round and sitting at 11.7 that’s a win in my opinion as it wouldn’t get disabled as easy as the SEP,SEPV2.
it works aganst some atgm’s (for example, the legacy tows, not the tow-2’s though)
not sure what ur first comment meant
i only use M1A2 and the first SEP in my 12.0 line up, SEPv2 is so ass too. SEPv2 and M1A1 HC gotta be the 2 worst abrams in the game. The reason why I say M1A1 HC is bad is because it get HEAT as its stock round at 11.7 (stupid) and the APS doesnt do anything aside making u repair 20 seconds longer. Overall its not bad for an abrams but I really hate the 20 seconds extra repair time.
False, HC get better turret ring protection which you can tank some shots and in that BR everybody aims at the turret ring, so extra protection is really really really needed, also i suffered too with the stock HEAT but once i get APFSDS it turned out to be so much better and it might be the best Abrams ingame right now.
AIM is also excellent, it’s probably the best Abrams variant at 11.7 imo, it has the SEP variant zoom level and same thermal quality, the KEW is less pen but it’s way too little to make noticeable differences in gameplay, only time those uparmored Leopard 2s shows up there is a slightly higher chance of non-penning their front hull, but most shots will go through them without issues, they are about the same as 3BM60, unlike T-80Us still using 3BM46 at 11.7 lol
I only wish some of the future Abram’s with 120mm carry smoke shells like the IPM1, there are some positions I could get to with IPM1 but not with M1A2s due to the lack of smoke shells.
Honestly, i haven’t tried it at all but if get the same turret ring protection with better thermals but a worse dart then i would certainly add it to my lineup as a backup, but i mainly aim to the best protection even though i would sacrifice thermal quality, it’s a fair exchange.