Question about the APS on the M1A1 HC

There is no 120mm smoke round in US inventory. Very unlikely to ever have one. The Israelis might make a WP one though…

What’s that supposed to mean? You think you’re clever?

I hadn’t noticed any difference at all, the three 11.7s are just identical in terms of protection, the turret protection is definitely superior to the M1A1 and IPM1 at 11.3, went from not being able to take a hit to shrugging off top ammunition, even my playstyle slowly adjusting to trading fire with enemies in a hull down position, which is something I wouldn’t do in the 11.3 versions. Nevertheless still can’t beat the turret protection of Leopard 2 #1 and T-90s #2.

Uhhh my 11.7 HC’s turret does NOT reliably shrug off any top ammunition… I wish it feckin did but it does not. I want to play the game you’re playing.

I mean the turret cheeks on the M1A1 HC/M1A2s can definitely reliably shrug off most top tier rounds if shot from the front. Only realistic exception I can think of is that the Object 292 dart can pen the gunner cheek under certain conditions iirc.

That is not possible, unless every single death is point blank, if you choose to sit back and snipe hull down, a large part of the turret cheek area will bounce top rounds, >800m you are still pretty safe to trade, unless you are overexposed and they hit your breech area or a little under the barrel, those are not an easy spot to hit.


I do have vehicles that simply cannot take a hit without entering a critically wounded state, they barely maintain 2KDfor my playstyle, thats Leopard 2k for me, I played it the same way as Shir 2 and the Leo is 2KD and Shir 2 is currently 4.3 because it has turret armor, I believe in the end of the month I might hit 5.0

Well I don’t sit back and snipe, because with the kind of matches I get, I will get absolutely nothing by doing so. So maybe it is because I’m closer to the enemy. Also I doubt I’m ever shot in the front of the cheeks too. It’s usually sides of the turret or near there. Still though you DID just say “turret” in general you didn’t get specific until after…