PZH2000/HU is a bit op for 7.7

Reload Rates for Artys as of 2.43.0.26
Type 75 HSP:

  • 10 sec for 18 shells
  • 20 sec afterwards

PLZ05

  • 7.5 sec for every shell

PLZ83

  • 13.33 sec for 15 shells
  • 17.77 sec afterwards

M109:

  • 13.33 sec for 16 shells
  • 26.66 sec afterwards

Type 99:

  • 7.5 sec for every shell

Sholef:

  • 7.5 sec for 2 shells
  • 11.89 sec for the next 58 shells
  • 23.78 sec afterwards

PzH 2000:

  • 5 sec for 2 shells
  • 7.5 sec afterwards

K9 (VIDAR):

  • 6 sec for 2 shells
  • 9.89 sec afterwards

Bkan 1C

  • 3.2 sec for every shell
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Apart from some French tanks and the Strv 103, I don’t think anything else that’s common has a reload that quick.

Combine that with the best one shot potential out of anything at that BR, and you get a tank with very good firepower.

It isn’t fair that something with an extremely fast reload, with a very capable gun, can face 6.7/7.0 tanks. It’s also a pain to face at higher BRs because it will almost always out reload you.

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Object 906 will outreload it consistently, but apart from that I don’t know about anything else.

LRF gives those HE slingers a lot of lethality as your every shot will be perfectly ranged so misses on stationary targets will be very rare.

It could go to 8.0 at the moment if you ask me, and with more decompression it should be at 8.3.

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Yeah and laser range finder and quite anti air capable too
Overpressure is very op

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gets a stab as well does it not ?

The fact it can chap off two rounds before most people can fire and reload at those BRs is pretty nuts.

Its also got a faster sustained fire rate than an expert crewed chieftain a full BR bracket higher than it.

It will inevitably go up in BR when the next bR changes come around and people ill as usual inevitably cry about it.

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It’s only for the MG I think.

Same old WT.

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The PzH? Yes and no, because the Stab is ONLY for the Commander sight

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PzH Stab is only for Commander Sight

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wasnt sure what for, thats still handy to use thouhg

And still BS that the PzH has an Stab at all, spoiler there is no Stab IRL, unless Gaijin has found sone magic sources…
But I/We cant prove it, so we are stuck with this fictional Stab…

Pzh2000 can fire 4 shells at 5 sec reload iirc

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AuF1: 7.0
0 survivability, slugish, no range finder, 7.5s reload, extreme wobbly gun handling
PzH 2000: 7.7
stupidly tanky, good maneuverability, laser range finder, 5s reload

I dont know man, but seems a bit strange that there is just 0.7 BR difference

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Whoever decided another VIDAR but at 7.7 with a faster reload and way better survivability is on an insane amount of crack.

This thing should AT THE MINIMUM be 8.0, if not 8.3.

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By survivability you mean FCS eating a shell. You have its FCS. It cant shoot, it cant turn, it cant aim. Furthermore, it can be MGed to death, unlike the VIDAR which can survive autocannon fire from the RH202 20mm and 30mm fox gun.

8.0 is fine, its just a VIDAR that trades armor and thermals for a better reload.

Since the snail wants to keep it at 7.7 Here, enjoy another Nuke )


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PzH 2000 to 8.7, and VIDAR to 9.0

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I think im suffering from critical skill issue as despite my consent effort still no nuke

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From my experience when I bring the Pzh2000 into the higher BRs I am still able to keep up, the issue arises with lack of advanced optics such as thermals. Even in top tier its fun to play but 7.7 is to low and easy for this type of vehicle.

Its bad one the move, lacks good zoom and lacks thermal as well. The gun isn’t stabilized, so 8.7 is probably too high.

Maybe its time to adjust the BR of all cold war and modern warfare SPGs, starting with M109’s and 2S3. They’re all toxic and too low BRed. Especially the Vidar, cause with thermals its just alot better to snipe everything down on bigger maps.

That is true, but with enough map knowledge you don’t need thermals. Such as I am slowly finding spots on many maps that allow me to use the proximity fuse on the PzH2000 to take out spaa and light tanks in some cases spawn to spawn firing.