Pz.Kpfw. S-III (t)

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I would like to suggest the Skoda S-III-6 tank for the German Tree.
It would offer a sister tank to the already present Pz.35(t), being basically identical, but bigger, slightly more armor and a 47mm gun. It would offer a similar playstyle to the Pz.35(t) and Pz III Ausf.F combined, having mediocre (Cal. .50 proof) armor, and a gun possibly as powerfull as the PzJ I Ausf.B with shoulder stock, overall but also quite slow at 28-35 km/h.

The S-III was the submitted tank by Skoda, with the contender being the T-III, both were part of the III series tanks.

Overall there were multiple categories:
II Light tank: 15mm armor, 2x HMGs and a 37mm gun
II-a Cavalry tank: 25mm armor, 15mm side, 2x HMGs and a 37mm gun
II-b Infantry tank: 25mm armor all around, 2x HMGs and a 37mm gun (which were the 35 and 38 (t))
III Medium tank: 32mm all round, 47mm gun, for break through and tank on tank combat.

Between 1934-37 the budget of the army was 240 million Kcs, this was enough for 279 light and 42 medium tanks. While initially set at 15 tons, they would end up heavyer.

Skoda would end up building 2 turrets, and guns, for both their S-III and the T-III by Tatra. With the contracts given out 16.04.1934 and partially complete in 03.1936. Driving tests began on 27.03.1936 and send back on 10.1936 due to having rather many defects.

On 15.03.1939 Czechoslovakia was occupied by germany and the army taken down on 19.03.1939, photografic evidence shows that both the T-III and S-III were taken by the Germans and used for tests, after that possibly scrapped. In general they would not offer anything new over what the Pz III already is or had in development, such as the 5 cm KwK 38 L/42, which is both more powerfull with AP and HE than the 4,7 cm gun.


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The Stats:

Armarment:
4,7 cm A9a (4,7 cm KwK (t)
The information isnt fully clear, either its “just” a reworked design of the 4,7 cm Pak 36 (t) for tank mounting, or by a french source notice its a shortened, altered weaker gun (or could just have been the velocity of the HE round).

The turret, is overall the same concept as the other turrets.
2 Crew in the turret, this time the commander is also the loader and on the right, with the gunner on the left. The turret also has free traverse by pushing around or hand traverse, the gun also has a shoulder stock with free elevation.

Elevation: -10° to +25° at 25°/sec
Traverse: 360° at 15-20°/sec

As well as 2x 7,92 mm Mg.37(t), hull and turret. Turret can be either as Coax or also as free traverse, similar to the T-28 in game already has.

With 80 and 4000 rounds storage


Ammo and stats: (Click to show)

Ap:


Pzgr.36(t) ((APC (No tracer)) 1,65kg 15g TnT 775m/s 87mm/10m


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Pzgr.36(t) L'Spur (APC) 1,65kg 15g TnT 775m/s 87mm/10m


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Pzgr.35(ö) umg. (Aphe) 1,51 kg 15g TnT or Np.10 805m/s 77mm/10m

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Pzgr.40 (APCR) 0,83kg 21x75mm 335g Core 1080m/s 119mm/10m


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He:


Sprgr.36(t) (HE) (No tracer) 1,50kg 180g Fp.02 and Np.10 (226,8g) 600m/s


Sprgr.36(t) L'Spur (He) (with tracer) 1,50kg 180g Fp.02 and Np.10 (226,8g) 600m/s




The Vehicle: S-III-8
Crew: 4
Weight: 19,5 t
Length / Width / Height: 6150 mm / 2540 mm / 2473 mm
Armor: 10/16-32mm (Hull and turret all around 32mm, roof and floor 10 or 16mm)
Engine: Skoda 6 Cylinder Water cooled, 190 PS at 1800 RPM
Speed: 28-35 km/h

Source:
Ivo Pejčoch, Oldřich Pejs - Obrněná technika 6, Střední Evropa 1919-1945
Vladimír Francev, Charles K. Kliment - Československá obrněná vozidla 1918-1948
Walter J. Spielberger, Die Panzer-Kampfwagen 35 (t) und 38 (t) und ihre Abarten einschließlich der tschechoslowakischen Heeresmotorisierung 1920-1945
Geschossringbuch I
Munition der 4,7 cm Pak 36(t)

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that tank look so Swedish to be German
huh-cat

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Well its technically neither. 😅

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-1, copy paste from Czechoslovakia that was just tested and scrapped by the Germans later
Yeah uh, all images are of Škoda Š-III-6, not Š-III-8
Only one image of Š-III-8 survives and that is inside Dubáneks book on Czechoslovak armor from 1918-1948 iirc
If you’re suggesting for Š-III-8, Š-III-8 actually has 3 machine guns, 1 on the back of the turret and 2 others on the front (turret and hull)

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Changed to III-6.

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Well the Czechoslovaks did try to export similar tank to Sweden that got in to patial prototype stage (V-8-Sv)

Cant be a C&P when it aint even in the game yet.

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this is true

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Still foreign vehicle, copy paste to me

how ? this is no way related to any other vehicle ingame its not even close to being considered a M55 M44 copy/ paste

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its Czechoslovakian tank

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i feel that swiss sub tree was kinda a poor choice for a sub tree i feel Czechoslovakia would have been a better candidate since the history together

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Czechoslovak Avia S-92 (Messerschmitt Me 262) - YouTube

Not really proving anything, Czechoslovaks just captured a ton of stuff after the war, by your logic it could be British subtree because it used a ton of British stuff in the war and after.
Also by your logic Poland can be German subtree

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they didnt have captured stuff bro this is they just straight up made a ME262 for there own use they had a lot of old german factories to use

they also made 109s and sold them post war

This is what happens after the Germans leave you with factories, also its important to know how those factories became a thing in the first place.

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Dude, Czechoslovakia captured over like 400 German tanks, including Panzer III, IV, V, VI hell even king tigers. Also bunch of stugs, etc. .
These ME262s were basically finished, Czechoslovakia had hundreds of parts laying around. Only main differences are that the Czech ones are worst due to them having different variety of weapons (S-92.1 has 4 cannons, S-92.2 has 1, etc. . )
Bf 109s made by Czechoslovakia were the only thing you could say is somewhat related but it is still not proving your point of “Czechoslovakia sharing history together” in a nice way

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ts gonna have zero ammo

sure wonder what I said