Just cause i know how to play a tank doesnt mean that THAT tank in specific has to go up a full br up
Just cause i know how to play the Turm 3 doesnt mean it has to go to 10.0 cause “It can be used there”
By that logic and proofs,make the Yak9 whole line go up to 12.7 cause i mean…why not,they can kill a plane if you know how to play them
It shouldn’t go up anymore, it’s already a bit situational but putting the Pz IV the same BR as the Hetzer or JgdPz IV is insane.
These vehicles DO NOT perform well overall.
Being the same BR as the Turan III is the biggest joke lol
Nope
It should infact go up. The Hetzer and Jagdpanzer IV are just insanely undertiered.
Great gun, but the rest of the tank is pretty mid. On war thunder’s tiny maps, it can get bullied by Chaffees pretty easily
H doesn’t have hand crank turret.
turrets are only slightly weaker than KV1 and i agree it should not go over 4.3 i just want the Panzer IV Hs equals to be same br
the CHI NU II is 4.3 and i think that thing is over brd
“Slightly weaker” is quite the understatement, dont even pretend that they are in the same field, specially with the zis 5 where you are basically imnune to 75mm kwk40 rounds properly angeled, you can literally pen the stz with an ostwind at short range…
Pz IV H is not that big of an upgrade over the G or J. M4s are way better.
besides they arent?
hetzer can be overpressured by a good number of guns, before we bring up the 155 and 203 he launchers we got added, and the jagdpanzer 4 while a tough nut to crack, only has its low profile and usable armour at 4.3 going for it, at 4.7 its ONLY upside would be the low profile, and that doesnt offset the poor mobility it currently has.
Literally means nothing.
At 5.3, it would still have good armor, good firepower, decent mobility, and a low profile.
They’re not even really slow tbh.
“Vehicles that don’t fit into War Thunder map design very well and perform atrociously and have solely and exclusively big funny gun which only matters against heavily armored targets need to go up way higher.”
You’re the type of person who’d uptier virtually everything you personally don’t play.
@Pheonix_RX01 I’d take the Turan III over a Pz4 any day.
@Terminated_800 I’d actually call it below mid at large. They have similar survivability to a Chaffee, without the mobility, scouting, no engine tanking, but get more pen. When playing the Japanese Chaffee Pz4s are among the easiest to kill via “lol penning”. And their gun doesn’t matter as you get vaporized by Shermans, T34s and Pz4s just the same, unless they shoot the engine block.
If you think the Chi Nu II is over BR’d. then the Panzer IVs would already be. It has slightly better pen, and almost 4 times the ammount of explosive filler in the Type 4 Kou. It’s turret is also way more trolly, and it has somewhat sloped armor on top of being able to engine tank.
The Chi Nu II is a pretty good tank all around, still suffering from some issues you find in earlier Japanese and early German tanks but mitigated.
Frontally penned at every common range by US 76s, found on turreted vehicles. Worse firepower than said US 76s. No point in playing it.
You say that talking to someone who someone who plays the Hetzer, and has almost exclusively used it at 5.0 with my Vk.3002.
Literal skill issue.
Says the guy who is seemingly struggling against these? lol
It’s a turretless TD, for which half the point of playing it is to have strong, consistent armor. That is the only upgrade it has over the Pz IVs it shares a hull with.
If it does not have good protection against a VERY common cannon starting at 5.0, there is no reason for it to go in a lineup - especially since at 5.3 there’s much better options.
Wow, the overpowered tank I have a 2.4 k/d in is difficult to fight, who coulda guessed?
Tank you barely played for a few matches, distorting actual KD’s. Nice one!
Where’s the variant with 80mm armor though???
Still not added to the game when it’s easiest copy&paste job.
Nowhere! Germany will be forever cursed with early/prototype models being passed off as actual production vehicles.
“”“Overpowered”“” because nobody knows how to shoot it.
