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blanchi blanchi boy what happened? you dont have any more false claims to do after seeing the truth and the only last resort for you is to post is this pic?, you even claimed that the “only equivalent was the R-74M2” which is wrong the RVV-MD is the R-74M! not M2 the R-74/M was a project started in the mid 80s that in mid 90s was put on stand by due to financial problems (USSR things) and it was retrieved in the 2000s entering in service around 2004-2006 under the designation (izdeliye 750), the R-74M2 (izdeliye 760) is the most modern and recent version that is also adapted to also be carried in the SU-57 this one entered in service around 2012-2014. the only thing that you put clear about your self is that you dont know what you are talking about you just arguing and thats not all, the claims you are doing are absolutly wrong.
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All of these have contemporary missiles depending on context.
The R-27ER’s contemporary missiles are modern Fox-3s. There literally are no Fox-1s capable of competing with it IRL.
The MICA-EM is a Fox-3, meaning it can be notched and multipathed. Not to mention the R-77-1 and the AMRAAM are contemporaries for different reasons.
The R-73’s contemporaries are the PL-5EII, PL-8B, AIM-9M, and Magic-2s. The weakest of these is the 9M, sure. But what else is everyone stuck with 9Ms supposed to get after it? The 9X? The IRIS-T? The ASRAAM? Those are all Python-5 equivalents.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Israeli engineers should be proud that we have this issue.
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its not even a strategic nerf but its indeed a mistake if its what they intend to do, the only reason for them to not add the Python-4 is not because it would be strong than everthing in the game or because it would dominate, the actual reason is because USA do not have any other missile better than the 9M that its not at the level of 9X and its at the level of Python-4 and because of this they are afraid of having a backlash a huge fk load of US mains crying in the corners because israel have a better version of US made jets with a missile better for close range and HOBS capablity, this is the real reason of why they are taking soo damn long to add this missile, its just insane the fact that this missile is still in the files for literally 2 years in the meantime a lot of missiles came to the game artificially nerfed and i cannot agree with smin statement because its not true that they do not add missiles nerfed everybody knows that everything they add its nerfed for the sake of balance.
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I rechecked and yeah you’re right. My bad. I mistook the jump from the R-74 to the R-74M as the jump from the R-74M to the R-74M2
In ‘context’ the Python 4 has:
• Similar pull to AAM-3/R-73
• Similar speed to PL-8B/P3
• (Nerfed) Similar seeker to eother AAM-3 or R-73
And this is all using data found on the P4 present in files
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Gaijin explicitly stated they’re not nerfing the IRCCM.
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It supposed to have similar pull to the magic 2 not the aam3
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Which is a double standard in itself but alright;
Pl-8B has a similar seeker to the TY-90, received FOV shortening instead
(Same case with PL-5eII)
AAM-3 recieved shutoff because ‘not enough data exists about it’s irccm’ AKA gaijin doesn’t know any better and guessed
Magic-2 was nerfed in order to add it to the game early (buffed later on)
And there are a few more examples of this
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It’s wild to me that you explicitly acknowledge the fact the Python-4 is significantly better than the 9M and that it would upset the balance of the game, yet say it should be added anyways because it wouldn’t be OP.
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Our counterpoint to the balancing issue, is that the Sufa and it’s players exist in such a small quantity, that 4 slightly OP missiles (2 if you want a competitive fox-3 loadout) will not dramatically shift the META, especially since the launch platform is a worse F-16C
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Can you not diffrentiate acknowledgement and stating a fact? Of course they will cry, every little bit thats better than them will get huge backlashes, especially pesky little Israel. We forgot F-15E/i situation?
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Even with Saraph, a heli that <1% of the community owns, recieves constant backlash for being 10% better than the US apache (despite the fact it’s newer anyway)
Player count is not a reason to add something better than the rest.
When you join an ARB match, you’re 1 in 16 on your team, just like the rest of the playerbase.
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Would be good in hobs but at range it wouldnt be that big of a difference compared to the 9m or the aam3
I’m talking about effect on the game, even if there are 4 sufas on your team, that’s a max of 16 (realistically 8 or bellow) Python 4s in any single lobby, and with a nerfed IRCCM they are capable of being defeated like any other high tier IR missile.
Just statisticically speaking, the Python 4 will not have a significant impact whatsoever, especially if it’s relegated to the Sufa
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You mean the situation where Israel was going to get the best F-15 in the game while the US had the ability to get something that roughly matched it but was significantly downgraded for no reason?
Almost like people saw a clear equivalency issue.
The Python-4 is not needed for equivalency. The 9M provides that.
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It not that much better anyway
Literally plays the same but you have more flares and you dont have to sacrifice stingers for that
And there was a point when the saraph was 11.7 and the ah64d was 12.0 which i can understand if people would complain about that
That was an issue with gaijin’s tendency to add ‘franken-planes’ to justify different armament, just so happens that the squadron of F-15Es they chose from USAF didn’t use PW-229, whereas every F-15I recieved it off the production line
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