With only 8 Spike ERs and no DIRCM, how can the H145M possibly sit in the same top-tier matchmaking environment as AH-64E or Z-10ME., which can carry 16 FnF missiles and also have DIRCM ？！！
Putting this thing at 12.7 is honestly ridiculous. 12.0 would be a much more reasonable BR for the H145M.
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yea spike sucks but it cant be any lower than 12.7 cuz it’s FnF missiles on heli, in a full downtier to 11.7, it dodges the pantsir and no other SPAA at 11.7 and below can fight it. If u lower it to 12.3 then it’s gona be even more likely to face lower BR where no SPAA can fight it
Plot twist, they are not in same BR.
AH64E, Z10ME, Mi28Nm , those are 13.0
And nope, no heli with F&F should be low as 12.0
Gajin made a mistake here. An unarmed utility heli with just 8km weapon range can’t be the same BR as fully fledged attack chopper with double the ordnance, dircm and all kinds of anti air weapons.
Don’t fool yourself, there is not practical difference between 13.0 and 12.7. Seriously. Jets with Mavericks are much lower BRed and alot more lethal than that. F&F is no argument, when the plafform is that weak. It not even got spike ER2. Others have not only double ordnance count, but more than double range as well. Its a typical Gajn.
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There is serious difference on 12,7 and 13.0
Question is, what you get more.
Funny, helos are more cancerous vs jets, others can actually just peak and get back to cover on F&F ammunition. Especially IR tracking ones. Wile lower br jets are also limited by shitty optics most of time. Mav’s got Thermal, but then kab 500’s, 29tv etc etc, are just blackwhite tv seekers.
Besides, german allready got Eurohelo , no cannon and 7km pars. :D
12.7 would be probably acceptable with Spike ER2. They would have double range as well. I just don’t get why it doesn’t get it. Its supposed to use ER2 as ATGM and not the ER. I don’t get it. Others get JAGM, LMUR, NLOS. But Germany can’t have ER2, which wouldnt be even better than one of those.
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Nope.
It was allready shit when germany had only helo with f&f , and when downtiered, it ruined games completely, even it got only 7km pars.
And nope, more range = bigger BR.
I really dont want to play 11.7 and people can sit and just spam missiles from further helospawn and you cant do a thing about it
Exactly, it’s not 13.0.
What are you talking about?
It’s not 13.0.
It’s already the correct BR for the lethality of the missiles.
Unless people really… really want to argue ADATS can deal with SPIKE missile launchers.
Bro i called it, i knew the german mains would whine about this. guess what br the AH-129D is: 12.7
I agree, however it can’t be lower than 12.7 for the sake of tanks below 11.7
Both of our top tier helicopters have no DIRCM and missiles that have a max range of 8-7km. The H145 also has nothing to defend itself against aircraft besides .50cals. It is an understandable complaint.
Well my bad, i ll fix it. But honestly, in top-tier matches, do you think that 0.3 BR difference between 12.7 and 13.0 really matters that much? In top-tier matches they just appear together.
Its especially funny when dircm helis sling ATGMs at your chopper from 16km or more, while your super 12.7 one has 7 or 8 km. You’re totally doa. And as you can see here, the community is fine with it. Half the range, half the loadout. Nothing to defend youself, no gun, no dircm, nothing. But virtually same BR.
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i cant agree you more…just no one cares German and German players anymore. It acts as a joke by modern standards.
How about now? When I’m playing my A7V, the enemy can still spawn the 13.0 heli you mentioned and blow me up anyway. So I guess at that point I’m supposed to hop into one of my two garbage 12.7 helicopters and start farming kills, lol. Am I really expected to believe those awful missiles are going to lock onto anything consistently, let alone actually kill it
F&F helis are primarily 13.0, not 12.7.
Putting this down to 12.0 if it was Russian would be opposed by the entire community.
So move it to 13.0? Oh noooo
Like the entire community doesn’t throw a hissy fit when Germany gets something decent.