Put the F-2A ADTW at 12.7 or keep it at 13.0 and give AIM-7P's

I couldn’t care less since your claims based on taking advantage of bad players while ignoring obvious facts, just like you claimed on tanks.

Considering how widely you’re wrong on that thread there is no reason I should take your word seriously.

Also you have similiar performance values on my most jets, which debunks your claim even more.

Great, so you get to pull the “more experience” card and I don’t just because you disagree with me?

Interesting…

Because I perform better on same jets most of the time compare to you, so yea I don’t need to take your words seriously just like I did on tanks debates.

which jets?

Using Kd is ironic, but yes, for me AESA still has a bigger advantage in 13.0 than HMD, though to be honest I don’t even know if there’s any point in discussing it further

1 Like

Mirage2K5f
MiG-29G/9.13
Mig-23
MiG-21MF/BIS
SU-27
Rafale
F-16 ADF
F-4J
F-20A
F4F ICE
EF-2000
J-35/37
FGR-2
F4EJ ADTW
JAS39A
Mirage2KCS5
F-104G
J-10
Tornado F-3
F-15C
Yak-141

Do you need more or are these enough for you?

Keep in mind these stats would’e been much better if I didn’t used those planes in ground rb.

IMO hmd is more important than aesa with fox 3s, but with fox ones having an aesa is better. Because situational awareness is super important with fox 1s, but with fox3s it’s not as important

And tall box acm with an aesa can make up the deficient over a hmd as well

Not really but suit yourself up.

Honestly I don’t care about your preference since main debate wasn’t about asking HMD and trading with AESA radar.

Discussion started due to a person claimed that ADTW struggles with its current armament and needs better missiles while we explained to him that its not that easy.

I clearly stated that ADTW hold its ground at its br quite well on my previous posts without HMD or better missiles, not my problem if you cant read.

Keep in mind at 13.0 only Kfir C-10 has access to both HMD and Fox-3’s which makes quite unique in this case, oh it also has access to AESA radar which makes it pretty much better F-2 in BVR.

Problem is at 13.0 you will see 13.3-13.7 regularly which creates the problem you mentioned.

I’m rated higher

I’m better than you there

don’t have this

never played it

don’t have this

never played it

don’t have this

don’t have them

Wanna try gripen C? Or any other rank 9+ aircraft?
What about the F-2s?

MiG-29N?

2 Likes

nearly 100% of my matches are with 13.7’s and 14.0’s. Why should I endure a Mirage with Mica’s in my F-2 with trash ass AIM-7M’s


I also helped a friend stockgrind his AESA euro on his computer, include this if you wish

you have the superior radar for awareness, flight performance and IR missiles.

You can:

  1. avoid him
  2. dogfight him (MICAs are not good for dogfights)

Either way the MICA mirage is the least of your worries when uptiered.
Your real threat is the flanker, always


just look at that TWS scan rate

1 Like

“Mica’s are not good for dogfights” do you hear yourself

2 Likes

1.8s fuze delay my beloved

The only true dogfight missile in this game is the R-73

1 Like

This guy thinks you have a chance against an aircraft carrying MICA’s while you have AIM-7M’s the absolute delusion in this page

Low k you can just stay in the notch then boom the mirage with your flight model.
Mirage 2k fm is garbage

1 Like

Stick to notch, he can’t do anything until merge
Or force low alt merge, boom he’s dead cause you’re in the second best dogfighter in the game

It’s 100% a winnable fight

1 Like

And you can do it you just need to know how to handle it and push the plane to its limits; with a bit of practice, you’ll be able to swerve around a mica-em pretty well

1 Like

2.087 vs 2.542

You definitely performs worse.

Alright I’ll give you this part.

Sure, come back once you play more than 15 games in Gripen.

Like other rank 7-8’s?

Sure wanna compare Tomcat stats as well?