The problem is it was nerfed to make it more balanced at its br, And at the same time its br was increased so another classic double nerf that made it worse in an attempt to fix it.
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Wouldnt solve anything, the problem is that the puma model is completly bugged and riddled with faults and performs way worse then it should. We dont want soikes primarily, we want the puma fixed, but that propably will only happen with the spike puma version.
IF we just slapp spikes at the current Puma, they will never bother to fix the PUMA model, so no that is not the solution
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as someone who already hates facing the puma (and light vehicle vaporizing tank GUNS-meta in general) additional rockets for this thing would make me hate it even more… meh
It is right now literally among the worst IFVs in the game… it can not frontaly harm anything but SPAAs and other IFVs. While alost every lower BR IFV can frontally destroy every tank it faces in one way or another.
It is the largest IFV because of its armour. Which is useless at its BR and bugged on top of that.
Its counter measure system does not work.
Its performance at 9.3 was already lackluster at best and even when playing 8.3 in a full uptier you would almost never see it. The Begleit is better in every single aspect when it comes to gameplay and meta play.
In short. The PUMA is a vehicle which struggels in the meta and is also worse in its stats when compared to similar vehicles.
But then again I do not play it nor at its BR outside of a few games a year.
But At 9.3 I never thought of it as particulary dangerous or hard to kill
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You know what. Sure, im for Germany getting Spike missiles…then maybe Gaijin will fix them. But from what i heared, didnt PUMA carried only 2 Spike missiles?
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Puma is easily the worst 10.0 IFV in game atm
BMP-2M dominates with its great gun, mobility, size, and 4x ready to fire missiles with exceptional penetration
M3A3 has the TOW-2A and the commander sights gimmick
Puma just has a nice angle on the UFP and an unmanned turret
Something will always be “the worst” at any given BR.
That’s not a reason to upgrade it.
And it just shifts “the worst” problem to something else.
Also doesn’t guarantee that it wont’ still be “the worst” at whatever it’s new BR will be!!
Also, AFAIK - Germany hasn’t actually equipped Pumas with Spike yet - they are still “on order”?
same as KF41, 2 launchers is the norm, they just didnt add spikes to reload to the KF41 yet i think
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Ahhh okay…thanks
Four of them.
During the Czech or Hungarian trials it was advertised to carry 2 in the launcher and 2 inside the vehicle (where PanzerFaust 3 is usually stored).
They very clearly have.
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it may not be a killer like the bmp2m, but sure annoying as hell on the huge amount of CQ street maps where it can “one shot” your tank gun and then you are easy prey for it, as my ****** russian tanks dont have a proper reverse gear, which allows the puma to come close up and easily pen the side armor. pumas survivability is still strong - killing it reliably from certain angles aint easy, especially while being frightend about its laser gun disabling your tank gun. bmps blow up like nothing on the other hand…
sadly the bad map pool is promoting IFV spam… i hate it
They all already stole the kf-41 from us and the people who never play the puma before always said oh the puma is super broken fk them
It always get 1 shot at 10.0 and with only 30mm guns it just like the BMP-2 with no atgm at that BR
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puma dont belong to 10.0 cuz its bugget not modelt properly muss wornk work as it should amd work only sometimes and that only when you facing your oponents also apfsds and underperfoming plus gun is weirdly unacurate for some reason also dmg on those apfsds is soo bad im using only apds cuz more spaling with low pen round aaaaaaaaaaaaand the shell we nned the most basicly multipurpose dont work at all. over all good wehicle but this is not higher material than 8.7 in its for why well its baddddddddd. when it was first add i understand the br was low and was good but this thing missing soo mutch missing its firepower, also missing a bit of armor to start with it plus no spike but the wehicle could woth without it there is no need for spike if gaijin fix all issues with armor and gun being more acurate and those apfsds finally going to have mmoooore spalings than maybe this is 9.0 or 9.3 wehicle but definitlly not 10.0 with those all missing things hell nah. I spawn bmp2m any time fo puma hell even marder is better in multy role than puma and also composite armor at side is modelled incorrectly and basicly its wisual but when you try to look at it in xray its missing same thing as with canadian leopard wich have maxas armor at side this was also problem but this was fixed finally. And yeah there are thise small spikes on the top of puma armor those are not iven modelled and they should be, like i know they do not do mutch but it can do a little and everithing is counting. over all puma is not bad wehicle its just really bad implemented in game too bad. But since gaijin dont care about germany in game at all this is dead topic. Like allways was on old forum.
Because Spikes are just that bad.
We will get a Puma with spikes after the event with the Vilkas has ended.
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Better than the Freccia but worse than the KF41, plus that puts it neatly in a lineup with the 2A4.
PUMA has no place being at 10.0 when the 2S38 is arguably better and more deadly, it was fine at 9.7 and complimented Germany’s 9.0 line up but the trauma and PTSD of the player base when it was at 8.3 continues to bash the PUMA
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Buff for the Spike ER has been acknowledged
Speaking of which, does this issue actually have a proper thread on the Gaijin.net issues report? This is the only thing that I found after a quick search.
