Is there any particular reason why is the Spike Puma at 11.0? Spikes are pretty much useless (and there’s only 4) and there’s no line-up at 11.0. Would this vehicle be even a bit too strong at 10.7? In what way are these vehicles better than 2S38?
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should be as the same br as the PUMA without SPIKE. Having SPIKE does not make any differences
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PUMA, overall has better survivability than 2S38, I don’t understand of people comparing any IFV in-game to a SPAA. I wouldn’t mind leaving VJTF same BR to the regular PUMA,
But if we actually compare a IFV with another IFV, PUMA is the best one in all terms of firepower, protection and mobility. Maybe except by few exceptions like Type 89 IFV with better cannon fire rate and ammunition.
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firepower? the apfsds has barely any spall
As any other 30 mm autocannon. It’s not a exclusive issue, but a generalized, 30 mm APFSDS rounds barely has any post-pen damage for no need to waste more than 10 in a vehicle.
Spike while lacking gives the PUMA VJMF an advantage over the PUMA without the MELLS system.
i mean, they are much better than just spamming 30mm 1 km away, specially with the dispersion of the 30mm, while unreliable they are pretty good at killing helis and light tanks
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Exactly while they suck at killing tanks agaisnt IFVs and Helicopters they are decent. 30mm and 25mm autocannons are in a really bad spot when it comes to killing tanks.
the br of 2s38 should not be the same as PUMA cuz as I know the “superior protection” of PUMA you mentioned would not stop an APFSDS and only effective for chemical rounds. If this two IFV had an encounter, the 2s38 would 100% win the first engagement. Thanks too for the nerfed spalling of PUMA 30mm autocannon, 2s38 would be harder to kill unless you remember where to shoot the exact location for the gunner and commander with time span of 0.1 second reaction time which I deemed inhumane
should still go up to 10.7 minimum
its firepower is still way stronger overall same with the anti air capability
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and lo and behold the one that gets up in br is hstv-l
I hope Gaijin adds Wiesel MELLS at some point, I barely know this system but I guess would be something better than a TOW.
Yes they not should be the same BR because both have to be operated in different ways in most or all environments.
With the protection, PUMA still have better overall, and obviously it will not stop a high caliber cannons for obvious reasons, with 2S38 even less because it doesn’t have any Chemical protection.
Stop basing every IFV BR on that broken premium vehicle. We know it’s nonsense as was the BMP-2M
gaijin could already add MELLS missile system ingame actually as the mechanics is the same from the missile from Warfare 2077 event which has LOAL (lock-on-after-launch) capabilities
while i do think that the 2s38 should go up in br, youre overeacting, in an ifv encounter the that shoots first will most likely win, it isnt like the 2s38 have any protection to begin with, unless it has the hull down,
actualy would be worse sadly enough,
cause the spike is so random they actualy would perform worse overall and arent consistent
guess the winrate for premmys is different from tt vehicle :p
the man in the loop mechanic is ridicolously broken, and game breaking, spike and similar only really need to be more consistent and a better loft.
the damage is so bad like the warhead is swapped with British solid shot and the fragmentation post damage is nonexistent