PUMA S1 (2024) - Special Enhancements... and a second Turret

Its called PUMA VJTF in the dev.

Yeah the leaks were wrong about it being the PUMA S1. Unless they plan on adding a module upgrade that makes it into PUMA S1 which would make sense since the only upgrades for the S1 is MUSS 2 and new Spikes.

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That makes a lot more sense. The puma in the dev looks nothing like this one

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The Puma in this configuration with MUSS 2.0 and the turret-independent grenade launcher was shown for the first time ever 1.5 months ago.
It was not yet clear what this version would look like.
And since it can be assumed that updates are planned many months or even a year in advance, it should come as no surprise to anyone that such a new version is not added to the game less than 2 months after the first images were published. Especially when you consider how many bugs the original version of the Puma still has

Let’s hope that’s really true this time.
Unfortunately, with standard atgms it will most likely still only be wire-guided atgms without IRCCM, although the source I found explicitly states that MUSS 1.0 is effective against optically tracked wire-guided, jam resistant 2nd and 3rd generation (those guided by IR seeker) missiles. So also TOW 2A and 2B.
I also wonder whether laser beam riding missiles count as standard atgms or laser guided.

laser beam riding means its laser guided

Yes, but I can still hope that they only mean SAL with laser guided :/

afaik MUSS 2.0 cant counter beam riding altough hendsolt has been working on making it counter beam riding i havent seen yet any sign of it countering beam riding missiles

calling it, MUSS 3.0 will fire targeted EMP blasts to fry the electronic components of incoming missiles/warheads

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Is MUSS 2.0 much smaller or is it just the camera angle in the pictures above?

Compared to previous MUSS 1.0 we have in-game (picture), its a lot smaller.

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it is not only much smaller it is stupidly smaller the lower module on the base is not even a fully needed thing is just an addition

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@WreckingAres283 ; @UnHolySausage

seems worth it alone for the smaller profile of the puma then.

well it is less than half the height of the normal module + it allows the instalation of the sound sensor module

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could it be a modification for the puma we get aswell?

possibly in the future, if you want an insight of the new stuff being added to the MUSS 2.0 check here Upgrade für das Schutzsystem MUSS 2.0
MUSS - Multifunctional Self-Protection for Vehicles | HENSOLDT

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imma call up the german army and see if i can connect you to their engineer department

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I also don’t assume that there will be any more precise information than there is now in the next few years or decades.
This kind of information is of course secret (as long as nobody leaks it, you never know with this community).
Everything I could find in German and English is either already in the initial post or in the two posts I shared relatively early in this thread.
In these you can only find the explicit statements that MUSS 2.0 can work against IR guided atgms, that MUSS 1.0 can already jam SAL atgms, SACLOS atgms and rangefinders and that in the development of MUSS 2.0 by Hensoldt the possibility to dazzle beam riding missiles was mentioned.
I haven’t found anything else, except there is in an article by Janes, but it’s behind a paywall, so I can’t say what it says.
Every other source out there I habe found uses the rerm “atgms” when it comes to the capabiliyts of the new laser based jammer, without going into any deatil.

Now of course you can think about how logical or ulogical these options are, but at least I am far from being an expert in this field.
I can only summarise the following from the sources I can find and my own knowledge.
The ability to disrupt IR-guided atgms with MUSS 2.0 sounds the most plausible to me. After all, IR lasers are already used in the DIRCM of aeroplanes to jam IR-guided missiles.
As far as jamming SAL atgms and range finders is concerned, I have no idea how that would work with the jammer. I personally think the author of the source confused the effects if the jammer and the effects of the smoke launcher.
And as far as laser beam riding atgms are concerned, you could either superimpose the laser, which is difficult because the sensor is located on the missile at the rear.
Alternatively, you could dazzle the optics of the targeting device so that the shooter can no longer aim correctly, or even destroy them completely, although I don’t know how much this would affect the accuracy, because it’s not clear to me whether the laser would then remain correctly on the target. Especially if the system is fast enough, you can even dazzle it before the atgm has even been fired, because the laser is activated a short time before the shot.