Proposed ground RB battle rating changes

You literally said this.

For a tank at 7.7 with a post 400 pen APDS with about 140 angled pen. Which isnt seen until about 8.7 ish on tanks.

Why summerise a tank, twice I may add, if you haven’t used it . why not let @jspene summerise it.

BTW this is incorrect, I use both the T54E1 and E2 and the APDS slams expecially for 7.7

The gun is a 105mm VS a 90MM cannon at 7.7, the 105 is substantially more damaging when it penetrates.

The turrets been okay for me, this though, with the PZH2000 and stuff rolling around has ruined one too many games for me with it.
The tank is fine for 7.7, its yet another victim of compression, no 6.3 in the game has the right to see this thing.

nah its got a good APDS , actively a good APDS on the t54E1 as well, the only ammo I used on the E1, good velocity, decent post pen, about the same as any other APDS and providing you aren’t just throiwng it mindlessly will one tap almost every tank even up to 8.7.

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Also note, it has been OVER A MONTH since Jspene posted that, and has since not posted anything under the topic

As does yours

As I said

LINE
As in, follow the “Replying to”
Frankly, stop involving me in this conversation. It’s genuinely annoying

Yes as the topic popped up for me as two others.commented a month later.

As i stated, i read about half then skipped to the bottom to see you, freshly stating what you stated.

As i stated you responded to no one, your comment was a flat out comment.

Read what ive said.

Then stop replying. Simple as

Brother, are you really this blind?

Shoulda specified, the conversation about the T54E2. I understand if someone’s skimming and they saw mine first and replied to it, but even then after I’ve explicitly stated that I was not the one originally talking about it gets annoying when the same person keeps trying to argue with you over it. It’s like if someone made a TL:DR on an essay and your first response was to debate them over the points in said essay rather than the person who wrote said essay.

Unless my side is tweaking out, your reply was the first in a month. Infact, the “Two Others” would be yourself

Except I wasn’t the last to post before you over the 1 month period, it was UniqueScorpions, before them Mr. Bombastic, AND THEN ME except I said:

Here, I circled it for you:
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Once more, while this argument isn’t about the actual nature of your response, why did you reply to the person who was simply shortening someone elses reply so it could be added rather than the person who actually posted the original? It’s not like you skimmed through and only saw that comment of mine and not the ones later on. You could argue you used the slider, but even then you would’ve been able to see that it was from March and a reply, plus there would’ve been comments below it.

Must be a forum bug as well then cause it was showing the same.comment twice for me.

Once in the actual conversation and one outwith it later down the line.

Hence why i said you repeated yourself. Ill check again when on PC

All of this may possibly be caused by a bug in the forum showing your comment twice one without a response link.
Or i wouldn’t of said what i did.

I started to assume as much, sorry if my response came off as rude and sorry for the misunderstanding here

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Genuinely looking on pc and it seems to have been a forums issue -.- as always.

Well ill leave the commenrs there regardless.
Apologies chief.

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I see someone wants Britain to suffer more

Do not come in here to start something.

The Brit’s don’t suffer. If you have an recommendation that is reasonable, post it, with its reason

Well, the Fox doesn’t need to go up. It is already punished as it is, with unnecessary nerfs from people whose sources are literally, “I saw it in a dream”. Plus it already gets machine gunned to death anyways, the only reason people want it to go up is because it counters their indestructible heavy tanks at 7.7

So nothing to add?

Because all those points have no true basis.

Fox is an extremely good tank. Gets easy nukes. Pre nerfs it was god tier, but it’s still very very good.

Being 8.0 would balance it better anyways.

And survivability? Don’t get me started, that thing is tankier than a maus sometimes!

Now I know you’re full of it. Tankier than a Maus? Have you tried not over penning it? Considering the fact most cannons at the BR are basically the size of the Fox, it’s not that hard to one tap it.

I’ve hit it directly, and even posted my own videos of eating many rounds, scroll back up and look

So machine gun it, you overpenned it, because surprise suprise, it has no armour.

It will live .50 cals often. Again, go look at the clips

I wish I had their luck, I have literally been one tapped by a single machine gun round. Went through my hatch, driver, commander, and gunner

I mean if the fox was slower than the xm800, and far less stable, I would say 7.7 would be fine.

But given the fox is actually quite stable, faster than an xm800, and has more pen, plus for some unknown reason, more post pen damage than the Aubl 74 HVG (which is a 60mm cannon btw), and is this survivable, I don’t see why it’s lower than 8.0.

This was the first tank for me to ever get a nuke in, in a completely stock vehicle. I was amazed

Imo, Gepard would fit perfectly at 9.0 as a side-grade to the M247.

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i dont rlly think it would be a side grade