Proposed ground RB battle rating changes

Is this still going on? Good damn and here I thought this was over.
The guy who made this post doesn’t understand what the word Slander means “Slander is the act of making a false and harmful statement about someone, usually orally. It is a form of defamation.”

Disagreeing is not slander. So you’re good to go Ulan. O_Ob

Israel:

Merkava Mk.3 (all variants): armor buffed by ~100% (real-life values of ~420-470 mm KE protection UFP, ~500-550 mm KE protection turret front), moved down to 11.0 - or either, without a buff, moved down to 10.7/10.3.
Reason? Is much worse than any 11.3, 11.0 and even 10.7 MBT, with no armor at all, an avarage gun and trash mobility. Not even gun depression to snipe with.
And anyway, should also be getting it’s stabilized commander sight, a slight buff in targeting speed and reload from 6.0 → 5.0 seconds.

Zachlam Tager to 6.7 → 6.0 (a terrible vehicle whatsoever).

Sholef V1: Either super-buffed to real-life level (LRF, ~60 degrees per second targeting speed, engine power to 1200 hp, 6.67 reload for 60 rounds ready rack, twice the turret armor - should resist autocannon fire, weight reduced to 45 tons and transmition changed to the one of the Merkava Mk.3: +60 kph forward, -26.3 kph in reverse), or moved down in BR. If buffed, should move up 7.3 → 8.7. If not buffed, should moved down 7.3 → 6.7 for being useless and huge at the same time.

AMX-13 (France and Israel) 6.7 → 6.3 (not enough penatration to justify 75 mm solid shot).

Sho’t (and Centurion Mk.3) 7.7 → 7.3 (not much armor, terrible gun and an even worse mobility).

AML-90 7.7 → 7.0 (unstabilized 90 mm heat should’n face a T-55 in combat).

Giraf 8.3 → 8.0 (a terrible box that is nearly unplayable at 8.7 where it has a proper lineup with it, so I suggest moving it down to 8.0 where it is more competent AND has a lineup to go with).

TCM-20: name changed to Zachlad TCM-20, moved down in BR 4.3 → 3.3 (it’s essentially a worse Wirblewind) and moved to a new rank 3 in preparation to add low tier ranks to Israel.

Magach series: Magach 6C and Magach 6 Bet Gal 9.3 → 9.0 (straight away worse 7C and Gal Batash). Magach 6M moved 9.0 → 8.7 (decompression needed, but the 6M is a worse 6C after all). Magach 6C needs a model update, as the one we currently have in the game is wrong and fictional.

Merkava Mk.4 (all variants): armor buffed by ~90% (real-life values of ~630-670 mm KE protection UFP, ~700-800 mm KE protection turret front). A slight buff of targeting speed. Merkava Mk.4B 12.0 → 11.3, Merkava Mk.4 LIC 12.0 → 11.7.

Merkava Mk.1B, Merkava Mk.2B - armor buffed by ~85% (real-life values of up to 420 mm KE protection UFP, up to 450 mm KE protection turret front). Should receive a stabilized commander sight. Reload time 6.7 seconds → 5.0 seconds. Merkava Mk.2B should get a .50 cal gun-mounted machine gun.

Merkava series (all variants), perhaps also Magach 7C, Sabra I: Should receive LAHAT gun-launched laser-guided ATGMs. Further research is necessary to examine claims of Merkava series tanks having more gun depression and perhaps even elevation than what we have in the game.

Namer Tsrikhon, Namer RCWS-30: armor buffed by over 90% (real-life values of over 650 mm KE protection UFP). A slight buff of targeting speed. Maximal SPIKE missile capacity increased to 12 (Namer RCWS-30) and 12-16 (Namer Tsrikhon). 30 mm belts capacity increased to 4 (Namer RCWS-30) and 4-6 (Namer Tsrikhon). Transmition changed to the one of the Merkava Mk.3: +60 kph forward, -26.3 kph in reverse , or either to the one of the Merkava Mk.4: +64 kph forward, -64 kph in reverse. Further research is necessary to examine claims of even higher speed being reached by Namer AFVs. Further research is necessary to examine claims of the 30 mm autocannon on the Namer IFVs being able to fire in higher rates than 200 rpm. Both Namer RCWS-30 and Namer Tsrikhon should be redesignated as ‘Heavy IFV’, and light-tanks related detailed modules, such as FCS module and Electronic Equipment module, should be removed. Namer Tsrikhon should be moved to rank 7 and foldered under the Namer RCWS-30. Namer Tsrikhon should receive the ability to independently elevate and depress the dual SPIKE launcher.

M-51 (all variants): reload time changed 7.5 seconds → 6 seconds; top speed (forward) increased 38 kph → 40 kph.

M339 shell: penatration by kinetic energy should be increased ~28 mm at 10 m, flat surface → 172.5 mm at 10 m, flat surface.

But of course, what we need first and foremost is decompression.

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you want to know why people are laughing at you?

You have propose 8 vehicles that should be lowered in the USSR tech tree.

And 9 in the rest of the nations combined (and one or more are because it’s a copy/paste vehicle from the USSR tech tree)

You my friend, don’t want a fair fight, you want to be able to steamroll other nations.

and im done talking with you, it’s about as pointless as shouting at the wind.

have a nice day.

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How much you want to bet this thread gets to 1000

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Was talking about mcplopish.

But maybe your his alt account.

IS-7 8.3 -----> 8.7 or Obj 279 9.0 ----- 8.7 those tanks should be close at br. IS7 has better armor and mobility and 279 is stab, slightly better pen but less armored and slower.

Steam roll other nations?
That’s irony

3.0 / 3.7 is very good for the USA

4.7 / 5.7 has very potent vehicles

7.0 is commonly top, the USA has extremely potent 7.0s and 6.7s

I have a couple buddies who are USA mains who agree the 7.0 lineup is super busted. That’s why if we aren’t getting good games, that’s the go to have fun.

The other excellent br bracket is the 9.0 / 8.7 lineup.

The m1128 line up is also excellent, with one of the best 10.0 spaa in the game.

I think they’re both at appropriate brs, perhaps the IS-7 could be 8.3 due to the advent of HEAT-FS being everywhere

I mean 279 is fighting HEAT + APFSDS which is kinda worst. Why IS-7 should stay OP and 279 just good that’s unfair. 0.3 GAP dif should be better knowing the stats of IS-7 being way too good.

The armor on the Obj.279 is better, and has a full stabilizer. Thus there’s a br difference.

IS-7 has no stabilizer, and doesn’t have the same armor

So that is Your argumentation? Nothing else?

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No 279 has worse armor I can tell you ok thats it has a stab thats why it should be 0.3 below it but not 0.7. Obj 279 can be killed by a Guepard from the front “Driver hatch zone”. And stats say it all. IS-7 need to go up. Seeing mid players doing amazing games in is just crazy (talking abt a winner of the 12 IS7 drop). But I see why you say this… But yeah, IS7 gun is not that hard to aim when you move and the fact you have better armor and mobility makes it being 8.7.

I’ve already posed my argument at the very beginning

If you having nothin constructive to say, don’t say anything at all

It’s not busted but it’s is one of Americas best lineups.

Please elaborate

You have the M46 which is pretty much an American Leopard 1 but a whole BR lower, the T29 which is a very good heavy tank, the T92 which is a super ratty light tank with HEATFS, and all the strong 6.7 tanks that you can bring if you want such as the Jumbo Pershing.

Plus good CAS as always with America

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Idk, I get pretty close to a nuke in any match I play the T29 or get a nuke

Don’t forget the m551 76

Please don’t compare 90mm gun to 105mm gun. Not to mention totally better mobility when it comes to Leo1.

90mm HEATFS is known for little post-pen damage.

7.0 which has a lot of vehicles that can pen it without much of an issue.

That are known for little post pen damage.

T26E5 with short 90mm gun, sure.

With little over 2 K/D that doesn’t sound real.

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The Leopard 1 is faster and the HEATFS has better damage, but it’s also an entire BR higher, has worse armor, and lacks APHE.

The M46 might have a slower top speed but it accelerates very well.

So? The gun is really good, you have a good reverse gear and good turret armor. All heavy tanks around 7.0-7.7 suffer in that regard because of APDS/HEAT.

It’s still very fast, very small, and has a fast reload.

And the M56 and M50

I also didn’t mention the T95 or the M551 (76)

P.S. I’m not saying these vehicles should go up but I do believe they are very good.

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