The Krisentema should be able to lock through foliage and smoke irl, that’s the main use of the radar.
It was supposed to have dual firing channel, Laser beam from sight and Radar control. one is missing while the other stay. this thing could be raised in BR to somewhere like 10.3 if the radar aim were implemented. they already have fire and forget mechanics for spike i dont see why they cant implement it too for khrizantema
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everywhere you look for 9P157-2 you will always find it can use ACLOS for firing
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Do you have a source? I don’t know a lot about the system
Just some private blog, there was a catalogue. but it seem to have been deleted, the only sources where you can view it was on scribd
page 48 by the way
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the info was also on wiki so i guess im not unintentionally leaking a classified info or something
Wow, that’s crazy bro.
T29 match: on my phone 75% of it.
Crew level: 81 expert
Kills: 10 (literally 2 sp from a nuke)
Caps: 1
Deaths: 1
BR: 7.7 (not a full uptier but close)
What round type killed me? HEAT-FS
IS-6 match: focused
Crew level: 150, expert
Kills: 8 (7 ground, 1 aircraft)
Caps: 1
Deaths: 2
BR: 6.7 (full downtier)
What round type killed me? APHE
So, which is the more effective vehicle again?
Wow, a sample size of two. Very convincing.
Oh lol I can repeat if need be.
I prefer AFT09, but Khriz can be funny for some long-range heli donking.
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Yah but if the heli has any idea he’s being fired at, it’s useless
According to what (I assume) you’re trying to prove here, the fact that I do better in the M26E1 than you do the T29 means we should bump it up to 7.7 while we’re adjusting BRs.
That’s not the real issue - Helicopters are usually in their own world. The real issue is even getting a lock on the helicopter in the first place, they have to be low or it’s not happening. Ultimately, Khriz is over BR’d. It is no match for the AFT09. Ground radar can’t make up for only having two tandem warheads to fire at a time (despite their higher speed). Hull is certainly not as survivable. Ground lock itself always likes to hit center mass, which can give mixed results. Typically, you’ll find yourself just shooting manually. Khriz should be around 9.0 in BR, like the AFT09 (or 9.3 if its moving up). I rank them as such:
AFT09 > ZT3A2 > Khriz. Mephisto doesn’t even deserve a rating because the French decided to not give it tandem warheads, limiting its utility in higher BRs. Your suggestion to move it to 10.0 is a bit silly, I find.
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Depends all in it’s pros and cons, and how you play it.
I play tanks on the front line, I don’t hide behind cover all game.
Is the M26e1 had the armor of the T26e5 it would be an easy 7.3
T32 would be much better
That’s not my primary issue with it (ERA isn’t that common at the BR). The primary issue is how bulky the launcher system is. This makes it trivial to hit so long as whatever you’re firing at has an LRF (which practically everything does at the tier) and any HE/HEAT round that hits anywhere on the launcher with ammo rack the missiles and kill you.
All other ATGM only vehicles barring the Wall-E have much less conspicuous launchers, making them harder to spot on a ridgeline and much harder to hit.
His justification is literally that he felt the need to include some BR increases for Soviet vehicles otherwise he’d come off as a Soviet main merely nerfing everyone else while buffing the Soviets. Also that the Kriz usually sees uptiers anyways so uptiering it won’t make much difference(???).
Frankly, I find it a little telling that in trying to find some vehicles worthy of uptiering, he settled on vehicles he had average to low KDs in. 1 for the Kriz, 0.6 for the 2S25, and 0.8 for the Sturm.
Meanwhile, the vehicles he demands to be lowered have much better stats.
- 1.8 for the KV-1 Zis.
- 1.5 for the IS-3.
- 1.3 for the IS-6.
- 1.4, 1.3, 1.5 for the T-54s.
- 1-1.8 for the T-80s.
Only exceptions are the T-72B and T-90, which are just slightly negative.
Meanwhile, there’s the KV-1E, sitting there with a 3.5 KD and a 70% win rate. Which goes unaddressed.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions from this.
Fair enough. I stopped grinding the vehicle once I saw it was limited to HOT-2, so you know the Mephisto more than I do. What I love about these support vehicles is their ability to perform at just about any BR. But at 8.7, apart from some M60/Magach, you’re rarely going to encounter ERA, so HOT-2 not the biggest issue there. I did notice the high-profile of the Mephisto when facing it, though.
Already have done so. Topics like this are good for some chit-chat. But Gaijin’s way of balancing via statistics and other means is sound, and they don’t need our help (most of the time) to do it.
khrizantema wont be as dookie if they actually let it have its fire and forget mechanics
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Here’s your quote of something that has no relation to war thunder even. Nice strawman there. A 2.0 kd or kps is insanely easy to get, as I said, and you need literally the barest knowledge of maps to get that. Of course there are matches where you go 0-2, but then there are surely also matches where you go 6-0? Or 8-0? Those exist right? I have less than double your time spent on the game btw, so it isn’t unachievable. It’s also nice to see that you don’t know how to interpret stats, as, if you had actually looked at the variety of statistical measures the game provides you, you would have seen that I do not one death leave, I spawn air. The t80b, and for that matter, the russian vehicles and the majority of british vehicles on my front page are things that I spammed out when I was still very new. So, just as you have said to not take older vehicles into account but your newer ones such as chinese and israeli vehicles, don not take my older vehicles into account as I have imrpoved, just as you said. You still have not told me why statshark is unreliable, and, as I said, it draws its data from the game itself. Compare your and my kps, winrate, vehicle stats etc from statshark to the game and tell me if you find discrepancies. Also, on the comet, please stop lying. The next closest british vehicle has about 150 less matches played. It’s strange how you can mess up like that with the stats in front of you. The type 89 has the type 87 rcv 80 matches below it. Strange how you missed this too.
I do suggest maybe learning how to read people’s stats better. If you want I can give you some guidance on it. It’s also strange how you decide to bring a completely random person into this conversation? Like great that you two know each other but that does not matter. I also started by bringing up the physical attributes of the T29 and KTH which you seem to have forgotten.
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