Not really a good point. Also untrue cause the M4A3E2 started life as a 4.7 and is now 5.7 lmao
I’ve played it, it would be fine at 7.3 but not 7.0
Which tank?
The IS-6. I’ve played both though.
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Considering how shameless some BR proposals are, to the point one nation gets the most of compression while doing absurd raises like the ontos going up to 7.3, i’ll quote this from —ironically— a “Russia op” post:
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That’s why I said the IS-6 should be 7.3
It’ll still be terrible at 8.3, but 7.7 is often in 8.7 or 8.3 matches it seems.
(Or you just get uptiers playing Russia, and no I’m not joking. A whole squad of my buddies had been playing German / USA, getting minor uptiers / downtiers.
The moment I swapped to Russia with another guy, it was constant uptier from there on out).
But, anyways the Is-6 can be killed by the M4 jumbo at 6.3 frontally, m18s, etc. so I can’t ever see it justifying a 7.7 br.
The biggest weakness is by far the gunner optic, followed by the roof hatches, which you cannot hide either, especially if you go to engage a target.
The ontos can fire 6 HEAT-FS recoiless rifles.
If played properly, it can kill quite a lot. 7.3 would be a sweet spot for it, where it isn’t less effective, but it won’t be able to bully 5.7s anymore.
Oh sure it can! the same way a maus can be defeated by a m36 jackson. These tiny ass never going to happen in a real game “weakspots” are not valid to bring up.
You consistently underrate ussr vehicles and massively overrate usa/ger/other vehicles.
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How does it do that?
Yeah, because Gaijin is unfair to the USSR tech tree BR ratings. They moved the IS-3 to 7.3 so people would play the BTR. They added the Finnish KV-2 at the same BR as the Soviet one, which doesn’t have a machine gun or the insane cheek armor the Finnish version has, and many more issues I could point out. For example, the T-34-85 has two versions with a gap in BR, and the only difference in the later version is an extra crew member. But the earlier version has Stalium armor, making it pointless to play the other one at a different BR.
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In no way is this true
No logic found, IS-3 was already 7.3 in the past before BTR came into the game. The 7.0 change just got reverted because they found out it overperformed (obviously)
Blame compression but the things you point out are very small in difference
And the much faster reload?
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every us tank listed should not be changed they re fine where they are
Did you know that the Chinese have T-34-85 with a extra machingun?
Did you know the chinese have the Dual cannon thing with proxy fuse?
Of course the USSR can’t have a good Heavy tank after the IS-2 which has been made bad from the insane cold war vehicle spam
Gaijin muliple times has said and done in version of tank that fixing a weak spot equales to a BR rase of 0.3br, the finnish one fixed the armor cheek weak spot and added a roof top machinegun
5.7 material
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Well, if a T29 can frontally kill the IS-6 with the larger shell, then a long 76 should be more than capable.
And I am not over the main nations, while under rating Russia. I have played all these vehicles except the Ho-ri.
I’ve also played against all the vehicles on the list.
Gaijin uses pros / cons / player stats to balance vehicles. What I’m saying about some, especially the T26e5, is how does that not have good enough stats to be moved? It murders every game that isn’t 7.7, I mean like it’s always 1st on the team slaying everyone.
@AllNationEnjoyer i am constantly updating the list btw.
The common quote of people who like to have bully tanks.
I personally like the T-35-85E, the little beds don’t always save you from HEAT, but it’s really nice when annoying M-51 players are about.
And yes, I agree… not sure why the Finnish KV-1 is the same br as the Russian one.
As the Finnish ones turret can bounce the M4A3E2 rounds with ease, where as the Russian one cannot.
I mean, M44 can kill 8.0 tanks with ease. Does this mean it should be 8.3? No. This argument is invalid, sorry man.
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Is the M44 stabilized? And can it survives low caliber HE? No.
Your argument is very poor
But I’ll gladly continue to destroy any enemy opposition, as I have more pen than some 8.0s, while being stabilized, and faster.
It’s a light tank that can kill anything it sees frontally. How isn’t it broken?
Does the APDS do the same damage as HE? No. While u in M44 oneshot everything, in M551 ur lucky man when u 3shot things. So is the stabilizer and weak armor the main point why it sits at 7.0? Like okay, then whos argument is invalid.
I mean a lot of top tier tanks especially German DM rounds have more pen than other nation rounds, they are also stabilized and fast. Why are they at same br as other nation tanks when they could have only APHE?
So from what I can see you are just mad that it destroys you frontally in your heavy tank and wants it gone from ur mm. There are more than enough tanks that are also capable of destroying frontally more thing that you can imagine. Does it mean they should be at higher br? No. BR DECOMPRESSION should happen. Not these nonsense “Br change suggestion”.
Yes? The first thing barely matters and the 2nd thing bumps it up in BR by a full 1.0, very much fine.
USSR cope.
If the T-34-85 isn’t 5.7 material neither are half of the tanks there.
Both guns have to go for tiny weakspots that are not practical unless the IS-3 is giving you an easy shot at them…
awful gun even for 6.7
no lol, just a solid tank.