Thank you for proving my point as to why the BMP-2 belongs at a higher BR than Bradley, just like how XM800T belongs at a higher BR than Fox.
Aside from fire rate, BMP-2 has better missiles, better mobility, better survivability, and smaller sillhouette.
Have a second launcher doesn’t matter a whole lot when the missiles are worse and it’s the only real advantage.
Oooo. ADATS has been nerfed multiple times. Now it’s a pathetic parody of what it was at release. It could lock on targets from the third person, its missiles were very fast. Now ADATS is the worst top SAM, and it was given one BR higher.
Hidden Changes (March 2025)
Removal of Neutral Turn Function: Some players have noticed that ADATS has lost the ability to turn on the spot, reducing its maneuverability. This change was not listed in the official changelogs and may be a bug.
Decreased Launch Range
ADATS missiles now lose speed faster at longer ranges, significantly reducing their effective range against air targets.
Decreased Maneuverability
The maneuverability of the MIM-146 missiles has been reduced. Now the missiles are worse at catching maneuvering targets, especially at medium and long ranges.
Missile Slowdown
Players have noted that the missiles accelerate more slowly and lose energy faster in flight, making them less effective against high-speed targets (such as fighters in afterburner).
More Misses Against Air Targets
Due to the weakened controllability and speed, missiles are more likely to miss their targets, especially if they are actively maneuvering.
Missile Invisibility (Smokeless Trail)
While this is a realistic change, it hinders the operator himself - it is difficult to visually adjust the missile after launch.
It was a jointly developed system by Germany and France however the US was involved in the manufacturing of these systems so I don’t really see what the issue is.
If I remember correctly, shortly after the saclos change, the max overload got changed from from 18G → 32G
2 useless TOW-2B and an old TOW-2A which is one of the slowest missiles in the game. Bradley has no survivability at all, any hit is a one-shot.
Someone forgot about the Swingfire
Better missiles? It trades 70mm pen for speed.
Tows are 50 m/s faster, and you can fire two without reloading, not to mention the insta reload bug the Bradly’s ATGMs have had for years.
Bmp-2 has better mobility yes.
Larger silhouette? Taller the Bradley is, but the bmp is longer.
Survivability is definitely better in the Bradley there guy.
And the bmp 2 is a higher br while pretty much being equal to the Bradley
Calling BMP-2 equal is a wild amount of anti-American cope.
The Adats has more HE mass, and has higher g overload than Both the pansir and the 2s6
It also has 800 pen…
It’s called honest. If you aren’t here to contribute honestly and without bias…
Please I ask you to vacate
I haven’t played it, thus it wasn’t added
I wish the F-104 was never added
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Great, but ADATS is completely useless against top aircraft. Its missiles don’t fly, I can hardly shoot down a UAV with it, you can’t even imagine what a humiliation it is to play it against KH-38MT, you hide like a boy behind rocks so as not to be killed and in the hope that the Su-30 or Su-34 will simply forget and fly closer. ADATS is an absolutely useless SAM, that’s why it hasn’t been in the game for a long time, no one takes it, but for the Soviets there are 3 Pantsir S1 at the spawn, which successfully intercept all missiles and bombs.
I have never been able to have my pansir intercept any munitions purposely.
Very rarely have I seen others do so.
The Adats can kill drones…? And is more likely to kill a plane that is within range more so than a pansir, due to max g overload.
If you cannot see your munition, turn the thermal on.
Also the Su-30/34 are mentioned why? Plenty of CAS can out range all spaa
People play it consistently
Oh my God, stop it already. It seems like we are playing different games. Just look at the killchat during the game. The pantir intercepts both mavericks and GBU-39s and Walleye bombs. I fired 6 mavericks at the pantir and it intercepted them all. If you play so badly that you can’t even intercept the slowest missiles that fly at you for a minute or more even with the pantir, then you clearly have a skill issue.
Stop having a different experience than you? Um… okay?
And there’s the skill issue… alright, well please reply when you have something that actually needs to be moved. Thanks !
Didn’t you say that you play on console in a different thread? I would assume that it’s much more difficult to do a lot of things.
Pantsir intercepting agms is commonplace and there’s a lot of videos that back it up.
There’s bug where it doesn’t show on thermals and it completely disappears after some 4-5km (I think)
They are the most common in game and the deadliest of all CAS aircraft. Lets not pretend that it isn’t. The ADATS suck in general when it comes to defending against agms but most of them, you can hide behind cover. It’s difficult to do that when a agm is going mach jesus
Because it’s the only top tier spaa for america??? It’s better to have it than not.
You gotta invest your time in other nations. It really shows with the stuff you say. And no, just because you have event/prem vehicles doesn’t mean you get the full experience.
It’s all fun and games until you get GPS’d by a semi competent player. You can’t really tell the difference between GPS decoys and IR missiles.
Also missing it’s TWS system
and yes 800mm pen is only relevant when you are the last one on your team and need to kill the invetitable Russian spawn camping.
