Proposed ground RB battle rating changes

Mate it farms nukes it’s not a balanced vehicle.

Yes you love exploiting and abusing it. Doesnt make it balanced.

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Fox rate of fire is so slow, its penetration at 7.0 was average at best. Player skill was the issue with the Fox.

One on one Xm800t destroys it everytime the x800t is faster, more stable with a higher rate of fire.

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type 87 at 9.0 cries.

I mean it kinda is, cause they balance off of the score it has over its actual capability, less people used fox in comparisson to the XM800T, in my experience its miles better.

But both are rat tanks which I hate to use and face

The penetration is good for a small light, the issue isn’t the pen of the rarden, its the 3 mag firerate, nerfed turret traverse (which was done through what I believe to be an incorrect assumption on how gear systems work), lack of stabiliser , survivability and noise.

You forgot about Pantsir S1, it needs to be raised to 13.0.

This makes very little sense, but I’ll entertain you. Why?

Because it is the most imbalanced SAM in the game. It cannot be on the same BR as other SAMs or even close to them in BR. Below in BR by 0.3 is ADATS which is worse than Pantsir in everything.

lol no. Just because America gets an actually good vehicle doesn’t mean it’s overpowered. It “farms nukes” because because it has a very high skill ceiling, and is placed against tons of low level premium players.

Adats is a far better tank destroyer, and arguably more survivable and mobile.

ADATS vs MBT? ADATS. Why play ADATS vs MBT if there is Abrams or the same HSTV-L? And for this reason they gave it such a huge BR?

An option is to take away his ability to fight tanks and lower him to 10.0.

Guess the Fox was also fine at its original BR and pre nerfs? It was US and German players complaining about the Fox and then Gaijin add the final evolution of the rat vehicle and in typical Warthunder fashion the paper never tested vehicle is superior to the actual real Fox that served for decades…

Xm800 is overpowered everyone including US players agree

Only U.S. haters think it’s overpowered.

You cant even defend it.

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Yes, you can’t defend it when the only argument to say it’s overpowered is that players are performing well in it.

That would still make no sense, and be ahistorical.

There is already a 9.0, 9.3, 10.0, a 10.3 and 11.7 spaa. Or something very similar to that

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me waiting for small caliber APDS to be recalculated so the 30mm on the btr is accurate, and closer to the fox

It is a slightly slower fox with 5x the fire rate, half the volume, great turret traverse, and a full speed stabilizer, with good ammunition (especially for killing aircraft).

How is it not op? Honestly I’d like to see the xm800 be 8.3, and the Bradley be 8.7

Initially, ADATS was introduced as a counterweight to 2S6, as a competitor. It was BR 10.0. Now 2S6 is on 10.7, but 2S6 is better than ADATS, so it would be logical to put ADATS on 10.0. Return to its native BR.

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The 2s6 had massive nerfs… the Adats hasn’t… therefore the br difference.

Also, Russia, for example, didn’t have a saclos launched spaa at 10.0 (now 10.3) like the USA did in the form of the Fake XM975