M247 is worse at killing tanks than its equal counterpart, the Gepard/Gepard clones
In terms of total penetration sure. In total damage? Meh. They’re about the same.
But the Gepard are under br’d too
Fox got its turret traverse halved, it has no stab, and its fire rate is dog water.
I actively avoid it and the scim.
BTW those are cherry picked videos, its the exact same as when people cherry picked videos to say the BVM or SU25 were indestructible.
be better.
They weren’t cherry picked. That was just random clips. Hell, I’ve loved the sturmermorser almost hitting me directly, but I chopped that up to a server error.
The fox may have slower turret traverse now, and less fire rate, but it’s pen is out of this world.
The pen is not out of this world, at all.
The pen is good thats it, the fire rates poor, the gun handling is poor due to lack of a stab, its only fast on certain terrains and ofc its got half its turret traverse.
It was arbitrarily nerfed on the premise of it shares a turret system with the Scorpion and another tank however its been proven the bug report that nerfed it had the gear ration system misunderstood, So here we are another british piece of equipment thats nerfed n left.
let me sum this up for you, they are your videos, that you have posted, on your youtube, to prove your own argument, they are beyond bias sources.
I don’t even use the fox at all, im here simply in the name of balance, the thing is a paper bag and dies incredibly easy, to act like it’s extremely well armoured is beyond disingenuous of you.
Oh, shall I go dig up the clip of a tiger tank bouncing L27A1 multiple times as justification to move it up in BR? no. As it makes no sense and is a biased source.
Moving on
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Oh no Britain have/had 1 good vehicle and they all lost their mind meanwhile the Xm800t is farming Nukes!
The hypocrisy is another level
I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t hate both of those.
Both are annoying, and neither should’ve been added.
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Yet one has been nerfed and the other runs rampant.
Bigger maps solves the light tank issue, but Gaijin want CQB maps and then get surprised when light fast small vehicles with good fire power dominate…
Like no seriously Gaijin.
And the XM-800T is going to 8.3, which I’d also consider a nerf.
Overall, both ruined my experience of playing lightly armoured tanks in that BR range, and I don’t like them for that reason. They make playing a light tank without an autocannon much more annoying than it should be, because they have superior gun handling, speed, and fire rate compared to actual light tanks.
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8.3 wont have any impact on it, shoot tracks, cannon barrels and murder IFVs
People bring them into top tier and get a few kills
Best thing for the Xm800t remove DM-63 (it didn’t have it anyway and leave it where it is)
Or remove it and drop it down to 6.0 where it becomes a slightly chonkier R3. Unable to pen Panthers/Tiger 2 and the heavier tanks
It has received a BR increase twice so far, and no it’s not overpowered even in the slightest.
Remember when the fox was 6.7? Or 7.0?
Exactly, they both received nerfs, the difference is you’re biased against America for some reason.
How so? Every nation received buffs / nerfs.
Because you for some reason want people to believe the lie that the XM800T is getting special treatment.
Where, did you get that information from??? I never even said that 😂😂
Mate it farms nukes it’s not a balanced vehicle.
Yes you love exploiting and abusing it. Doesnt make it balanced.
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Fox rate of fire is so slow, its penetration at 7.0 was average at best. Player skill was the issue with the Fox.
One on one Xm800t destroys it everytime the x800t is faster, more stable with a higher rate of fire.
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type 87 at 9.0 cries.
I mean it kinda is, cause they balance off of the score it has over its actual capability, less people used fox in comparisson to the XM800T, in my experience its miles better.
But both are rat tanks which I hate to use and face
The penetration is good for a small light, the issue isn’t the pen of the rarden, its the 3 mag firerate, nerfed turret traverse (which was done through what I believe to be an incorrect assumption on how gear systems work), lack of stabiliser , survivability and noise.