I’m gonna mention (to my knowledge) the base Strv 122A is the same as a base Leo2A5, so I find it a little odd that you only moved that one.
I’d lile to say something, I know that you don’t have many top tiers on here, but how do you think the list would change if you added a 13.0?
Strv 122 all models (are 2A5’s) they just have armor packages. The 122A has armor like the 2A7V, the 2A5 could go down in BR since the 2A6 and 2A5 both don’t belong at the same BR as the uparmored Leos.
the 122A is slightly better tho, the add on makes it basically the 2A7V armor wise
2A5 go down cuz no armor package
The gun in my opinion is the easiest identifier there, as the Leopard 2A5 operated the L44, as opposed to the newer L55,
Not something I knew tbf
I have always found it really funny that the 2A5, PSO, 2A6, 2A7V, 122A, 122B+, and 122B PLSS are the exact same BR as eachother
Leopard spam
again its soooooo not OP! Not really sure what game you’re playing… every BR has its ups and downs when it comes to OP and Not… but NOW right NOW it is NOT OP! given every other tank.
HOW YOU USE IT makes the difference!
So can a M5A1! Should that be uptiered.!!??
Then explain why after playing 2000 matches, in both KV1 B and E you get killed quite often by a variety of random tanks and not just a PZ??
Heck Ive died in it from BT’s, M5A1’s so on so forth! ITS NOT as OP as one would led to believe. its very much on HOW you use it! just like every other tank in this game.!
89mm PEN at Zero Metres!!! WHAT A WEAPON!!! not!!
yeah, the nuke requirements are so inconsistent
the e is still op
KV-122:
And that’s enough for it’s BR, especially when combined with APHE. The Shermans of the same BR only have 104, and the Churchill VII at 4.7 has 104 without APHE.
You shouldn’t be dying to an M5A1 in your Kv-1E/B
It is super OP, because its armour can easily resist almost any gun it faces when angled. To put it simply: its armour increase is worst 0.7 Brs over the standard Kv-1, because plenty of 100mm thick armour is unreasonable at 4.0. In the 41 matches I’ve played, I have only 3 losses, and a KD of 4.42, which says to me that it needs to go up in BR.
I have no idea how you can call something not OP when you have a KD of 3.31 in the E, and 3.55 in the B.
Dont forget the anti no skill soviets angle modifiers.
It a working list for that reason.
And seeing as I have no experience with the top tier Sweden vehicles I didn’t add them
Not as much as the B. Like I said before, the B has the benefit of not seeing giant German guns.
This just proves my point more. Enough for its br, no higher.
Also, as I said previously, the German one is ultimately better.
why add all the .3 or .7 BS thats the only reason why we get uptiers just get rid of them and have them at 3.0 5.0 ect stop adding the .3 and .7
CLOVIS 8.0 → 8.3
It’s a DF105 but with a 20mm coax, better gun depression, better horizontal traverse, and laser rangefinder.
Sweden and Italy Panzer 4s and Sutg say hello.
Soviets is by far better. With better line up and more spamed. 4.3 asap!!!
Both of them are equally good, and deserve the same BR.
And it’s enough for 4.0, and enough for 4.3. You can’t give something 5.X equivalent armour with a 3.X gun and put it at 4.0. I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can think that it isn’t OP.
