Proof of LDIRCCM capability in IIR against Laser DIRCM

Machinery of War Discussion
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There are no reputable sources that claim that LDIRCM can decoy IIR seekers to the extent of damage nor a missile missing its target

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I know what they are, you’re not understanding what I mean. They’re all IRCM just some are specific. Like directional or a lamp style.

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The AH-64’s LDIRCM at least exploits that. It goes through the cloned IR spectrum of the AH-64e so they are exact matches. Then it directs the laser around the seeker to drag it away until it’s completely defeated.

(from the laser manufacturer)

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That’s why I believe it’s a balance feature, also iirc a source from the Mi-28NM says it can dazzle newer generation missiles as well, so this seems like an uphill battle.
I do believe it’ll be toned down by making it so the aircraft can’t dazzle more missiles than DIRCM on the aircraft.

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Missiles like IRIST with feature tracking wont be decoyed by this as it would simply reveal the target if the laser tried to lead the missile away by pointing at the edges of the seeker.
Imagine the beam focused on the left side while the target is visible on the right or any other side.

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Dazzling is proven.
The papers and my research shows that despite dazzling, IIR seekers can track their target

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Personally I’m all for it being toned down but only to a point to where I mentioned above so it’s not completely useless against top tier machines.

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I’m not sure if you read my post above but you should.

Dazzling is part of a defeat package that increases survivability. IR seekers with imaging sensors are not infallible and when combined with other techniques they can be defeated.

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That would require gaijin to let go of it’s promise of historical accuracy.

I agree that they can be defeated but it is so difficult it is currently hard to even simulate with just an LDIRCM system
For it to truly happen, missiles need to be blinded past their FOV and or spatial flares need to be used in conjunction with ldircm

We need to remember that these systems are meant to counter indurgents with MANPADS

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The game has been A historical for awhile with many different aspects of the game.

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Deliberate ahistorical features are not a trend that we as a player base look forward to

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