Premium Vehicles and Post-Sale Balance Changes

Hey everyone,

I wanted to bring up a topic that’s been on my mind for a while, and I think a lot of players have probably felt the same way at some point. It’s about how premium vehicles are handled in terms of balance—especially what happens after you buy them.

To explain how it feels, let me use an analogy:

Imagine you buy a brand-new set of high-performance tires from a dealership. They’re advertised to handle great, grip well in all weather, and improve your car’s performance. You test them out and love them. But a month later, the dealership remotely degrades the tires—reducing their tread, weakening the grip, and making them perform half as well—because they decided they were “too good.”
It would feel pretty frustrating, right? Even if the company said they technically had the right to do that, it would still feel like a bait-and-switch.

Well… that’s what Gaijin does with premium vehicles.

  • A premium aircraft or tank gets released at a suspiciously low BR, and it’s clearly overpowered.
  • Everyone talks about how good it is. Content creators make videos. Players rush to buy it.
  • Then—after a few weeks or months—it gets a BR hike, a weapon/engine nerf, or worse.
  • Now you’re left with a product that no longer performs the way it did when you bought it.

That’s what it often feels like when you buy a premium vehicle in War Thunder. A new premium gets released, performs really well at a lower BR, and gets a lot of attention. Then, a month or two later—after many people have already bought it—it gets a BR increase or some kind of performance adjustment that changes how it plays entirely.

Now, to be fair: I understand that Gaijin’s Terms of Service allows them to change vehicle performance for balance reasons. I’m not saying they’re doing anything illegal. And I do understand the need for ongoing balance adjustments to keep the game healthy.

But I think what a lot of us struggle with is the timing and transparency of it all.

  • If a vehicle was clearly overperforming from the start, why was it released that way?
  • Could it be balanced before it goes on sale, rather than after?
  • And if changes are made so soon after launch, is it fair to not offer refunds or compensation?

This isn’t meant to be an attack—just a genuine concern from a long-time player who cares about the game. At the end of the day, we’re paying real money for these vehicles, and when they change significantly after purchase, it naturally leads to frustration.

And to be honest, this isn’t just about one or two vehicles. It’s become a consistent pattern over time. Many premium vehicles—especially aircraft—launch at strong BRs, receive glowing reviews from creators, and are then adjusted a few weeks or months later once the initial sales spike has passed. Whether it’s the F-5C, A-10, MiG-23ML, or others, this cycle has repeated enough times that it no longer feels like a coincidence—it feels like a business model.

I think Gaijin has an opportunity here to build more trust with the community—whether that’s through better balance testing before release, clearer disclaimers, or some kind of goodwill gesture when major post-sale changes happen.

Thanks for reading. I’d love to hear how others feel about this too.

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When this does happen they are very obviously too strong for their BRs i often hear people say itll go up in br soon so get it while its still OP and not balanced yet or something

But also i dont think this actually happens as much as you think it does, and when it does they often go up by only 0.3-0.7 br, and it has happened the other way around arguably an equal amount

Premium vehicles need balancing too, they shouldnt stay OP and they often dont because gaijin isnt always as silly as people think

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You know it’s just the OPs personal grievance when he lists 3 planes that are absolutely fine.

Gaijins willingness to change Premiums, whether it’s to lower/increase BR or bugfix does them credit.

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I was just listing some premiums off the top of my head that had BR changes, this post would be pages long if I listed every single premium vehicle that initially had a lower BR than it does now. I’m just saying Gaijin has a history of doing this. It wasn’t personal grievances towards those specific vehicles.

The only plane that even meets the criteria for overhyped because OP then hyper-nerfed was the Harrier GR.1 and only Harrier GR.1 owners would want it to remain clubbing Korean era subsonic flareless jets with SRAAMS and an Airspawn. Naturally most BRs will increase as Gaijin increases the BR limit.

There’s plenty if not just as many premiums that have benefitted from BR reductions, like the J-7D, Wyvern, 190 D-13 and things like the TURMS AV and Challenger DS that got more powerful rounds, Chi Nu IIs turret rotation speeds quadrupled, A-5C flat out increased in Rank making it more valuable etc. and likely plenty more I either don’t remember or even aware of.

No, I don’t have sympathy for people who buy into something like the IS-6s hype then pull a surprised pikachu face when it’s obviously bugged 500mm+ god-mantlet gets patched out or blatantly undertiered planes/tanks get rightfully bumped up in BR. Gaijin sells its vehicles at face value, not by advertising its Battle Rating or even in game performance.

The Italian M60 was rough tho

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The last time this happened was years ago, and it was released that way because it was a niche vehicle type and couldn’t be introduced as accurately as say an MBT.

F-5C, A-10, and Mig-23ML have never been OP. Their only BR changes were from decompression.

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Im nearly sure TURMS released with 3BM42.

Bought the now removed premium from sale Vautour IIA IDF/AF back in the day. Used to be a good grinder. Got its airspawn removed and now it’s useless.
Bought a A6M5 Ko. BR increased a few weeks later.
Bought an A-5C. BR increased like a month later. Rockets also nerfed shortly after.

Really makes think twice when buying a premium in a minor nation.

Funnily enough I was sure that F-5E FCU will get nerfed after a while. While it did go up one step everything around it went up 2 steps so it basically got a buff. Not a premium but you can still GE it.

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It only had 3BM22 and regularly faced Leopard 2A6s.

It got 3BM42 after a few days.

for the love of god i cannot find the update preview on new power and trying to find old review video of TURMS is like looking for needle in the haystack.

old wiki shows that the first version of the TURMS wiki page from 17th of Nov., 2020, really did not have 3BM42 listed as aviable ammo, but its present in the wiki page version from 19th of November.

what i am trying to say is that youre probably right that TURMS did not have 3BM42 on release.

That’s one of the reasons why the new ground pack in France has chosen to stick Leopard2A4 instead of MSC.

  • Т-72AV — The nomenclature of the shells used has been updated:
    • I modification level — 3BM22
    • IV modification level — 3BM42
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Gaijin’s problem to some extent is they end up balancing around player skill and how the vehicles are actually played. I would guess that sometimes they are legitimately surprised by the performance of a vehicle… maybe they should have seen it coming, but that doesn’t mean they are acting in bad faith necessarily.

It’s good to see them balance premiums compared to those “other” guys that don’t really do that… ever… and broke shit just remains broken. That is definitely NOT preferable.

Hey, thats how i boight Turms. It was supposed to be so good, total death machine.

Biggest buyers remorse. If not for the fact, that T-72s are my favorite tanks by the looks, i would’ve hit my head against the wall.

It’s laughably bad, but hey, at least it looks cool.

Can’t wait to see how this new NF5A will be nerfed to the ground.

To me it mostly comes down to whether or not people understand what they are buying. Frankly I feel that people have no idea what they getting into when they buy high tier vehicles to grind.

F-5C and Mig-23ML are both incredibly good aircraft with the F-5C needing a healthy round of nerfs. A-10 is in an ideal position to to use Aim-9ls in downtiers and get easy kills.

Though Only the Mig-23ML recieved “nerfs” in the form of historical accuracy changes. The other 2 I dont think have gotten any.

Premiums should be changed just like any other vehicle. To use the Mig-23ML, yes it did get “nerfs” in form of changes to make it more historically accurate (though before it was criminally under BRed), Premiums do also get “buffs” for the exact same reason. Tornado WTD61 for example went from barely being able to take off with a full weapons loads to a half decent FM (And room to buff it further in the future) and from 56 CMs to 56 large flares and 1200 large chaff. Let alone the split ground BRs which enable it to be used at quite a decent BR imo. In the future more buffs and changes as they become available.

Should Premium vehicles be denied buffs in addition to nerfs to keep them in the same state that everyone purchased them in? Should OP premium vehicles be left OP as P2W vehicle?

No to both questions. Though most premiums remain in a strong position even after nerfs.

The only truth to the thread is that I think they try and make sure premium vehicles upon release are good, and so favour risking a slightly too low of a BR (like I think the F-18s probably are) and/or giving it an edge that it maybe wouldnt have gotten as a TT vehicle (such as the F-5Cs flares). We have also seen with both new premium battleships that they have totally fictional reloads that are about 3x faster than they should be.

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Having unique/ best/ only version available as premium is my major gripe

It works tho il be buying the f20 next sale and the A5c if it drops BR…