And yet the type 90 had a 6 sec reload for ages despite its actual reload being 3.5sec…
in fact as far as I know tis is the 1st, non-auto cannon auto-loader to use its maximum posable load speed.
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Moma come pick me up im scared
Add it to the french TT. Simple as. Who needs a stabiliser anyway.
it has bad velocity tho
the pen is also not spectacular,
? French tt has 8.3 thermals + dart + laser rangefinder and on 8.7 thermal + dart + aps + laserrangefinder + 20mm mg
Having bo stabi sucks but the 10rc and amx are still very nice even without it, as they have everything but a stabi. With a stabi they would be 9.3 -9.7 indeed.
I mean its gonna be situational and in no way the main round, but
200mm of pen is enough to slice through the side of most of the things it can meet and 2.6sec reload for gun of that size, with 639g of TNT equivalent?
Id definetively carry few of those.
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“Oh my God, who am I telling all this to?”
I advocated nerfing T58 while maintaining his current BR. Now everyone’s decided I’m the type to want to overpower him at a low BR. Yeah.
I know. I just said it because I believe france is the nation that gets stabilisers the latest. At 9.3 and everything before that is unstabilised.
Okay, I’ll restate my position so I can be understood. The T58 should be given a 5-6 second reload, loaded with 8 rounds, and then left with 8.0. I think that’s the most balanced option. Good luck to everyone!
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You cannot just give it an 8 shell drum if it’s know it had a 6 shell one. Reload going up for balance can be discussed but not the drum size.
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I found the APDS far better in damage than the other rounds, with good reliability.
The T58 can pen a T-55a anywhere, and has triple the turret traverse.
Uh I need to double check that, but I’m pretty sure the T-10M only has 239 pen with its APHE.
Secondly, 8.3 mostly sees 7.7 / 7.3
8.3 now … glad I did not pre-order.
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Even at 3.3 secs FOR A 155MM 8.3 is too low.
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It isn’t and it doesn’t. (or at least shouldn’t - who knows with the snail!!)
Little kid named SAV 20.12.48 with a 1.2 second reload with a 120mm at 3.7 BR
I play 8.3 Britain all the time, and 9.0-9.3 are common. 7.3 is rare. 7.7 is common.
No and No.
T10M had and still has 295mm Pen on APHE, maybe ure confused with T10A wich has 230mm.
And No, uptiers are much more common on 8.3 specific and in generall the MM favours uptiers thanks to its rule. And to make it even worse, when playing in a squad everything gets even more often uptiered thanks to the MM rule…
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Yes, I agree, but I’m already in favor of a reload time of 5-6 seconds, but the BR is 8.0.
Except the sav is:
- easily killable
- cannot kill everything it sees by hitting it anywhere
There are quite a lot of 7.7, and a decent amount of 9.3s.
Often I find myself in 7.3, 7.7, or 8.0
It really depends though because some days no matter what I play, I get full uptiers.
Thankfully the T58 can kill everything at 9.3 with ease.
In my experience, 8.3 mostly gets downtiers. Say what you will, but there’s a reason if I’m feeling devious I play the Turm III.
I actually find squading with 1-2 people to the best. Full squads or solo and we get stomped.
408mm Heat pen… at 8.0… with a 5-6 second reload… in a 155mm cannon… that still is 8.3 material, and no lower.
That would likely be okay at 8.3, but balanced at 8.7