Pre-order: Leopard 2A4M CAN

Now count only the non- premiums.

With 11.3 you play 11.7 99% of time anyway,and most people also uptier themself there with their CAS,you take 11.3 and then GR.7 or Gripen for CAS, rather than GR.1 Tornado

Arguable since armor is mostly irrelevant at top tier, mobility is how you actually live and the merkava is amazing at that

All I’m saying is the British don’t suffer anywhere near as bad as they say they do.

yeah no, 2nd Worst shell at top BRs, (L27A1, 564mm pen, worst is T-80Us 3BM46 with 532mm, which isnt 11.7 like the BN and 2E but lower at 11.3 with the standard CH2s)

Wost mobility

massive hull weakspot

even has a wose turret traverse speed and the breech is much easier to aim for on teh CH2 than the Leo

You have a sub 1 k/d in every challenger 2 except for the base cr2 while having a 2 k/d in the 2A7 shut up

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Laughs in T72/90 reverse gear

don’t mess with British players, we don’t even want to play the vehicles in the tree we decided to grind out

Mobility not agility

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Mobility wise sure not, hull armor no, they have strong turret when in hull down paired with great gun and gen 2/3 thermals aswell as commander thermals. They are not the bad tanks everyone make them to be. China,Israel and Italy are currently the worst at top tier with their MBTs. Especially China now without spall liners, longest reload of them all, wrong model of ZTZs that make them too big with their LFP and missing armor. Israel and Merkavas with non existing armor. And well,then there are Arietes, good round and mobility, play it like Abrams lol.

At no point did I say it was better than the 2A7V??? I’m saying it’s not as bad as people make it out to be. Also I’m not anywhere near spaded my the chally 2F so try again lol

Aren’t you the guy who was trying to bad his opinion on the top tier Abrams by playing the XM1?

and the abrams and merkava, all use the Rh120 L/44 under different names

Challengers have the best Optics ingame. I like them. APS isnt useless at all wtf are u smoking?

thats also good too, by sky sabre is much mroe capable and will provide a pantsir equivalent

Damn, who would have thought two different tanks have different quirks. Also the L27A1 is kinda on par with 3BM60 and DTC-10, and honestly even then they lolpen most of the things they meet except 2A7V and Strv 122s. All you need to play top tier is round with performance of 3BM42,then you kill anything. If not,then skill issue.

The chally two mostly sit at 11.7 the same br as full spall lined leopards, tanks which far outclass them in literally every aspect the chally 2 are bad same goes for the ariete

except they wern’t

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Makes up for it in mobility which you agree is better. And 2a7 is on par I’d say.

So does the leopard

Leopard gun is better and thermals while aren’t worse there not that big of a deal. Especially since 2a5 and up have gen 2 commander thermals.

take 1 away from japan, 1 away from britain, 1 away from USA

And? The abrams is a great tank ingame it has great survivability mobility and a great gun im grinding out the US tree with the XM1 to get to the abrams to prove those incompetents wrong that its not a bad tank and that they’re just playing it wrong, half the time i look through their replays in the abrams its them driving through open fields and whining about being killed