Pre-order: Leopard 2A4M CAN

i would probably take a tracked rapier at this point

If used correctly the ariete can be competitive doesn’t mean its not a literal pile of shit of a tank that should’ve been moved down in br ages ago

do they have an 11.3 premium?

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That’s exactly what I meant I wasn’t trying to imply the challenger was on the level of a leopard.

The worst one in the game yeah, it’s so bad it should’ve been replaced by this thing, it’s just sad

your opinions on the performance of a vehicle are irrelevant to the developers

As long as it sells

Britian: 7

USA: 8(9 if include the OLD event merkava)
DE: (5 (6 after 2A4M)
USSR: 7
JP: 6
CN: 6
IT: 3
FR: 4
SW: 5
IS: 6

Lyning through your teeth, it is equivalent in number to other nations and the US had more than the UK

Not really, if they just replaced the damn thing with something actually decent they would make a lot more money

Then dont try to say britian already has the challengers and an 11.3 premium they’re not good tanks the leopard should of gone to britian as it stands the best tank in the british techtree is still the T-90S id rather play that than the current challenger 3 at 11.7

Like I said before the 2A4MCAN does not have 2A7V equivalent hull armor. Gaijin is being dumb

Genuinely a skill issue. The chally 2s aren’t anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be.

As stated here they don’t care if it’s not good. I didn’t say that they were good with what they had I was saying they already had one. Because that’s how gaijin sees it.

They check it off the list and move on. They aren’t concerned about it being any good.

just because they’re the second worst and not THE worst doesn’t mean a whole lot

3rd worst, I’d say the merkavas and Arietes are both worse

UK: 7 MBTs between 11.3 and 11.7
Germany: 5, with 2A4CAN okay it gets equal, but even then the Challys are better than all leos but 2A7 and that one have wrong armor values. The Challys got fixed by Gaijin last big major update, so stop crying.

Or the third… forth… fifth… and so on…

Yes all of those challengers get worse the higher in br you go
The chally 2 is fine at 11.3 not great but not terrible
The chally 2F is a direct downgrade
The chally 2 TES/OES is an even further downgrade
The chally 2 BN is a chally 2 at 11.7 it has literally nothing going for it other than the useless APS
the chally 2E is the best chally 2 because it has a real engine
And the Chally 3 TD/2 LEP is a downgrade from the 2E but you get a better gun

Absolutely not

2a7 was and is still modeled wrong. Especially on release it was horrendous. But at least it made progress. And even when broken it was still much better than the challengers.