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Well as someone whos shooting at both
The 2A7 is no easier to kill than the STRV-122.
The PUMA and BAGEL are amazing
And you have so many Leopard variants.

Its trivial to be upset by Sweden when you know you still have the 2A8 to come. Sweden like Britain has no more tanks to add.

not fake, just prototype

and there was also a ADATS on a warrior hull, would fit better

Fake, the thing was never actualy put together.
The parts existed yes ,but all over mever actualy touching

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looks like they did

Again mock up, that thing isnt in working condition

Jup was a wood turret Where did the Rooikat SAM go?

it is easier to kill i have counted a lot of times where i’ve accidentally pen’d the upper hull plate, the most armored area of the tank with my Type 10 without issues and the breach has so many holes you have chances of shooting through and causing an ammo explosion by going through the blowout pannels wich already did to a 2A7V during a match, the PUMA is good but requires skills if not its just gonna be a slightly more resillient IFV without missiles, in my personal opinion i love the PUMA but its lacking in anti tank capacities, honestly every time i see gaijin reworking damage models they just make more holes than before

well gotta love the stnadards for major nations then the other for minors

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a lot of nations recieved stuff that didnt exist or that were on paper cuz they were in need, aka japan for example i think giving the adats to britain was good option since they would’ve been defenseless

The thread talks about it, apparently real odtwind existed.

Either way thats the siutatiok for that spaa

SPAAM coulve made a good 9.x BR SPAA with teh lesser missiles, we have 3 8.3s and then only 1 buggy as shit 10.3, guess we will have to wait for some land rover with a javelin

Ostwind I maybe, Ostwind II though? only a mock up iirc, same with kugel (again IIRC)
then there was the coelian which has been admittedly removed

Challenger 2 is fine at 11.3 when people use the protection onion.

If Gaijin really wanted to they could add Leopard 2A8 to Sweden via one of the subnations like Norway

You’ve pretty much made me memorize the dang thing through every time You’ve mentioned it lol.

In this game, it’s only partially relevant since there are small maps and forced engagements though. While it is definitely still relevant, there are times where it is reasonable to assume it’s kind of an out the window strategy

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German designed Canadian Leopard in German tech tree, while German designed Hungarian KF41 is in Italy.

Tell me how this is not arbitrary choice

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The protection onion and headphones are the two biggest things that increase survivability in ground battles, so yeah.

Yeah thats a stretch

Maps are too small and the CR2 is too slow to plan and avoid detection

Concealment again mobility means if you try to move you get peeked and die in one hit

Armour, no Turms can one shot you in the front
Thats a 10.0 tank!

Headphones help, but the CR2 is not even close to being a meta or comparable to Leopard 2A5 and A6

Will this guy have the DM53 APFSDS?

Players preferring small maps actually makes the Challenger 2 stronger.
If CR2 is too slow for you… T-90M’s too slow for you.