Those are usually still restricted / export restricted. Just because you can technically see them and share them, doesn’t mean you legally can.
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And I can’t even argue back thats some bullshit
It actually is US Gov controlled.
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Tech from the radar has been in use for a while. Even stuff no longer in use has to wait to be declassified.
Can the Devs make official statements regarding these issues instead of using alt-accounts to argue with us?
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Classified documents get leaked unfortunately more commonly than not. But that doesn’t mean they get declassified. A company caught using a classified document, even if it was leaked by some other entity, can still get in major trouble with any government.
While I don’t like how inconsistent Gaijin can sometimes be with sources and inflexible Gaijin is to give benefit of the doubt on some things, using leaked classified documents is a huge no just to protect themselves from legal action, especially with how many eyes are probably on Gaijin due to the nature of the game.
I know I’m just saying it’s dumb.
It’s like saying P-40 Kitthawk documents still have to be classified even though we’re currently flying F-86 Sabres
And I told you that you would be refused.
Well the statement is clear
Russia good NATO bad unless undeniable proven and even in that case they can pull out the balance card
Just ridiculous how we are arguing which version of aim54C the f14D used
Wen the yak141 can get everything wen it only had mockup’s
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Some sub systems from the F-14D could still be in use today which is why some of the docs are classified
Secret documents are like patents. A patent can be public and can be officially copied by changing a few details. It’s just a patent in the world of military technology. To prevent anyone from officially copying your technology.
This discussion has gone completely off the Rails. lol.
We are not asking for classified docs. We are using public sources. The narrow claim is that AIM-54C with ECP-82 / ECCM-Sealed is documented in connection with F-14D sealed/dry employment. If Gaijin says that still counts only as “planned,” then they need to explain what source standard separates that from accepted prototype/test-fit weapons on other aircraft.
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I believe I have seen other non-US websites with a similar timeline. Never mind about that.
My point is, you cited a rudimentary fact sheet (timeline). They don’t have to be very specific about it, so it’s not a good source for me, and the volunteers made it clear they would reject such sources like that.
Where did you find a source that claims there was a version with better radar? Show and back up YOUR claim.
You are wrong again. AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed was part of the latest incrementation of AIM-54C+ used by the F-14D. Therefore, it is logically factual to say AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed is AIM-54C+, and AIM-54C+ is AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed.
The FY 1988 Annual Report of the Director, Operational Test and Evaluation has more authority than the timeline on the .mil website because it went into technical details.
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I curious about the response.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/F76Q6BfdhzeJ
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The Yak-141 was a prototype that was planned to go into service with the weapons it has ingame. Therefore, its treated as a prototype with planned equipment.
The F-14D is a service aircraft, therefore its treated as such with compatible armament.
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Later sources are more reliable. The chronology from the NAVY(dot)Mil website says (was i provide) the first launch was 1990. This means it’s a different version.
So the yak-141 should have never came at all
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Except Gaijin thinks differently. There’s many prototype vehicles in game that got the same treatment as the Yak-141.
The F-14D is a service aircraft, and AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed / ECP-82 is part of its compatible Phoenix family, with documentation specifically connecting it to F-14D sealed/dry employment. I know they have previously stated that they want it the same as teh F14B, but that isnt at all historically accurate so thats why everyone is so upset.
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