I think that’s fair.
Only thing from what I’ve seen mounted on it was wooden mock-up missiles
genuinely the biggest problem with the F14D is that most of the info is still classified, hopefully that will change though. I think this is the case I am not entirely sure. Because Ive heard a lot of things from ex-navy but who knows if its true.
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Na its literally just gaijin being a … Can’t find a friendly word
I mean, that’s gonna depend on which game mode, I don’t know about Air Realistic/Sim, but being 13.0 in Arcade Premium F2A’s just get dunked on by all the now 13.0 ARH missile tech tree planes, let alone the 13.3’s like the Su-30’s at their native 13.3 or the 13.0 most people get them to, let alone 13.7’s down in to 13.3, 14.0’s down in to 13.7’s and of course the 14.3’s down in to 14.0. Even after the F-15A finally moved down to 12.7 it’s ‘better’ but at this point, basically anything with SARH and/or IR only needs to not be above 12.3 in arcade.
In Arcade, unless a better version of the AIM-54C operates like the Fakour-90’s, you could give it a better AIM-54, AIM-7P, and AIM-9M, keep it at 12.7, and it’s still gonna just get absolutely wrecked. Again, don’t know about Realistic/Sim but Arcade, once modern ARH like AMRAAM show up, if all you have is SARH your basically hoping your not 1 of the 6+ people he locks and fires on, or that the thing actually hits a mountain or something if there’s actually terrain and he’s actually dumb enough to come in to range without missiles to use your SARH or IR ones. And with how poorly AIM-54’s do in Arcade, you almost might as well only have the SARH and IR ones.
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Best plane at 13.0 btw. In your head there are only missles, nothing more.
F14D is 13.0 without 54C+/Aim7p
Just kinda took a snippet and didn’t read earlier.
1985
The AIM-54C was deployed to the fleet.June – AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed Missile TECHEVAL completed. First AIM-54C+s delivered to Navy.
1986
March – AIM-54C+ began production and delivery.December – AIM-54C reaches Initial Operational Capability.
1987
March 18 – The first missile launch of an AIM-54A Phoenix by a Naval Air Reserve squadron, VF-301, took place at the Pacific Missile Test Range, Point Mugu, CA.August – AIM-54C+ full-scale development.
1988
July – AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed variant reached IOC; entered service. AIM-54C missiles with improved ECCM are known in the U.S. Navy as AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed.1989
June 6 – First Raytheon-built AIM-54C flight test conducted.1990
August 14 – AIM-54C+ High Power Phoenix first flight test of fully upgraded missile scored a direct hit on a QF-4 drone, demonstrating unprecedented multi-shot launch and leave capabilities.AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed testing started in 1990 and some missiles were retrofitted with modification kits as the AIM-54C Plus upgrade.
1991
Production funding was deleted from the FY1991 budget request.
Production started in 1986, with the first 54C+ being delivered in 1985. Additionally upgrade kits for upgrading 54C’s to C+'s were also provided in the 1990 funding. IOC was also achieved in 1988. The timeline is insanely confusing and probably refers to different versions of the 54C+ that got redacted due to classification, but according to the Navair source, which is gonna be the most reliable since it comes from the US Navy, the 54C+ very much existed and entered service a good bit before production ceased.
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Why should I read anything before the first test flight? Does this change anything?
In the same sense that Su-30MK2 is a 13.3, right?
However, this does not mean that the missile remained a prototype. Direct confirmation of its serial production and operational service deployment is contained in two official documents that must be cited together:
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F2 wins in close combat 100 out of 100. The fact that you can’t dodge missiles and get close is just a skill issue. Like f14D will win. Su30 only has good rocket count
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It very much does, your whole argument is that it didn’t see service and production ended with the C, despite production of the C+ starting in 1986, 6 years before production of the Phoenix ended.
The F-14D on the other hand saw service up to 2006, when there would be C+'s in the inventory.
The important part is also in 1988 when the C+ was declared to reach IOC, which does mean it entered service as IOC declares that a weapon/vehicle is ready for service.
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Just because they were in storage doesn’t mean they can be used by F14D.
Maybe it’s a story like with the AIM120, where the F14D can’t launch.
And all testing was carried out on individual F14A models, on flying laboratories.
Hopefully br 14.3 soon
There is definitive evidence the F14D Operated with AIM54C ECCM/SEALED using the LAU 132 launcher, just look it up. Its not that hard.
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I didnt said a word about aim-120 on F-14D. For F-14D were created AIM-54C+ . Just check documents, go
So far I don’t see any evidence.
So far I haven’t seen any instructions in any document about launching and acceptable angles for Aim54C+ to launch from 14D
There’s not even a word about 7P.
If you didnt seen that, it doesnt mean the fact about AIM-54C+ Were created first of all for F-14D