814 messages in this thread and Gaijin is turning a blind eye.
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Wanted to say that it looks like logs attached to it, then I zoomed…
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Bug reports regarding both AIM-9M and AIM-7P implementation have been closed as “not a bug”, with the stated reasoning of… Drumroll please…
“Currently, this is not a bug. Developers are decided to implement the F-14D’s armament identically the F-14B.”
What?! Why not just make a premium F-14B (Upgrade) instead of absolutely murdering the F-14D to fit it into the same BR as the F-14B?! Or hell, just pull an F-4EJ ADTW and make the prem F-14 a premium version of B with a special paintjob???
Gaijin, I’m begging you, please don’t be this stupid. Give us a TT version of the F-14D, and give both it and the premium version the weapons they could actually use in service! You CANNOT claim to be a historically authentic game in any capacity when you introduce the best variants of iconic jets in a nerfed state (using missiles they were physically unable to fire in service) at $80 with no real TT equivalent!
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This is an outrage… Give it higher BR and AIM-9M’s 7P and 54C+ at the very least.
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They’re really trying to pull an M1 KVT situation on us again… But with no real defensible reasoning this time…
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Nothing new.
It doesn’t need to go up because it would be the perfect counter to the 33s and 27s
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Community: “Hey, we are kinda irritated that you just made the F-14D a copy of the F-14B, and refused to give it 9Ms and better air-to-air missiles.”
Admins and Devs for no reason: “We are going to mass delete your complaints, say you have skill issue for not wanting unhistorical 9Ls and outdated Sparrows, and then proclaim this is a win for the TRUE COMMUNITY, and not you fakers who discredit Gaijin!”
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Gaslighting at times can be real lol.
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They only respond M-F. Very rare on a weekend they trying to save there sanity.
OK I saw they posted 7 hours ago in R&R. Yeah they just are avoiding the topic, or more than likely just focusing on certain topics.
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Honestly if the B was the premium and the D was TT. This wouldn’t be on fire as much.
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Yes
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Tbh let him the 9L and 7M, i only want the Aim-54+
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I think there’d still be a fire about it. Giving a plane those missiles at a BR that constantly sees fox3s and IRCCM missiles is terrible. Legit ZERO REASON why this plane can’t have the 7Ps or 9Ms. Hell we have an F15 at 12.7 with 9Ms.
F2A with 4 AAM3s and SU33 with R73s and 27ERs (IOG AND DL which the 7M doesn’t have). Tornado with 9Ms and AIM120s, premium SU30s with 4 IRCCM missiles and 6 ARH. There’s no excuse for Gaijin.
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Oh I’m not saying there wouldn’t be a fire. Just not as big. Not giving the jet missiles available at 12.7 is mind boggling.
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Agreed. 🤝
And I’m a huge F14 fan. It’s just so depressing they’re neutered in this game.
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Hello fellow snail lovers.
I’ve already posted this in the General Discussion forum, but I feel this belongs in this thread too. I’d like to bring attention to something that I’m sure a lot of people feel quite strongly about. The recent revealing of the F14D coming to the game. I will keep professional despite my very strong feelings toward the addition of it as a premium. I would like to propose a common middle ground.
Proposal:
F14D(R) - Premium:
Same loadout it has
F14D ROVER III - Tech Tree Vehicle:
Same flight model and other characteristics as the F14D(R)
Added ROVER III upgrade (Remotely Operated Video Enhanced Receiver)
OPTIONAL UPGRADE(S): Added AIM-120A/B capability
Premium vehicles should SUPPORT progression, they should not REPLACE it. As a community, we want these iconic and highly requested vehicles to remain a part of progression, to make the time we spend playing this game worth it. We want these “End of an Era” vehicles to be a part of the grind, and to continue to be obtainable through gameplay.
Thank you for your time and consideration, feel free to give me your feedback.
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I think you have a point.
There would be complains like for many planes that are wrong or intentionally with half their normal available armament for “balance” , but not to the volume it is now.
At least the premium wouldn’t be better than the TT , with the option of updating it in the future.
Now even if they update the armament you’ll have even greater difference from the TT ones to the premium.
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More than the amraam why don’t you give it AIM-9M and AIM-7P?
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To be fair ALL Tomcats they have to get proper 54s according to data and not that crap they have now.
Here we have the 54A of 4,3 mach , being faster than 54C of 5 mach because they can’t understand (or want to understand) that it has very different flight envelope that gives it the capability and the raw engine power of mk60 engine may make 54A faster at low altitude , for 20-30 km depending on the shot , then should get overtaken and 54C carries more energy after that point as well making it more leathal in longer range (we are talking for a missile you can shoot at 70-80km easily).
They have it at 17G single plane overload, while it’s 25G dual plane. They can’t figure dual plane? Fine , that’s more of modeling HOW IT TURNs… not how much it is able to pull.
Now all FOCUS to what i’ll say.
R-27 can hit 35G in DUAL plane… They gave it that value in game , even if they can’t model it in the model (however i have a feeling that the way missiles do in game, they go diagonal…it’s just the banking isn’t modeled anyway, feel free to correct me if i am wrong, i’m not home to check). For 54s it is a problem , right? And now i’m not supposed to think of BIAS?
Come on now… let’s be serious.
And then we go to what 14D MUST have 54C ECCM/sealed because it couldn’t carry 54C because it didn’t have cooling to use it and not to mention both 54Cs and 54C+ were upgraded to 54C ECCM/Sealed by the time 14D was operational.
54C ECCM/Sealed has different electronics and different radar (same tech level with 120A if anything) , PD (C had too, but …), different warhead .
So instead of asking to fix a mistake with another mistake, why don’t just fix the mistake.
If you fix that, with 9M/7P additions it would be fine at 13,3. Hell, it won’t be better than the premium Su-30s … it will just have a fighting chance.
On another notice,
what happens with the radar. APG-71 should have biiger range than AWG-9 at all levels, not lower.
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