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Okay cool but that’s a completely different discussion?

True, but people saying X vehicles needs “this weapon” on newer stuff is just non sense, when things like the Su-39 have been around for awhile now and missing weapons it should have

You’re talking about the Su-39, which is a decent strike aircraft that sits comfortably at 11.3 with the missiles it currently gets, so that’s a pretty weak argument.

The F-14D, on the other hand, is a half-baked $80 premium that they were originally planning to release with AIM-9Ls. You’re using a poor example here because the Su-39 is already very capable in both Ground RB and Air RB, and giving it R-27s would be completely unnecessary since that would inevitably push its BR higher.

Next time, use the F-4J (UK) as an example instead. That aircraft is in a really bad state and hasn’t received a single meaningful buff since its release back in 2022.

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That will ruin it

no it wouldnt
because the f14d cant DL it

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It’s been proven multiple times in the bug reports that it can, mate. ☠️

I think its over now. Now was a SU-30 prime time and this game are not fun anymore. I think US TT will not get anyting good and if it will be a premuim game now. Im out now glad to see you gays doing well.

Not if they finally implement toggle modifications that affect the battle rating

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No it wasnt. All that was proven is carrying capability.

Can you please pull up the sources for me?

It might be 12.0 at worst, oh no. What a shame. I’d much rather have it be 12.0 and have some better forward stand off capability over the Vikhir

11.7 or 12.0 in grb as well given its already on edge of raise thanks to having kh25mpu which standart su25t doesnt have. Are you sure about this deal?

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They could do this with many vehicles but instead they just spawn copies which count as entirely new vehicles.

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Yeah… Imagine the greatness it would bring, would be glorious
So many possibilities without a wave of copypaste

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They can’t because it’s export restricted but either way even those source dosent deny aim7p-2 all it really tells us is that
“The AIM-7P incorporated a new computer processor, several Sea Sparrow software changes and a fuzing change. All of these changes are transparent to all F-14 aircraft. Designating the weapon as an AIM-7M H-build will permit use of all AIM-7M H-build enhanced launch modes in the AIM-7P. The functionality in the weapon is identical between the AIM-7M H-build and AIM-7P.”
In 3-22.4 2004 in the Change Overview page it also does mention “Authorize AIM-7P” And in the 3-22.5 2005 it does mention “(block 1 and 2)”under aim7p

I don’t think the quote is saying the f14 can’t use aim7P-2 or else it would just get straight to the point and say aim7p-2 isn’t compatible with the f14

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I’ve been reading similar things too, and that’s a shame. I guess we really might have to push for AIM-120s, because those AIM-7s are okay at best. Just to be clear, I’m fully aware that the F-14A was the test bed for the AIM-120. Theoretically, the F-14D could have carried it as well. I think Gaijin should make an exception because it would finally give us a viable 13.3 counter to the current Su-30 spam.

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no this is not the solution its OP and should be 13.7 where it belongs it has no reason to be lower than 13.7

adding more op vehicles does not solve the problem

F14D as is a very good counter to the SU33 SU27 which is the strongest 13.0 due to its mindboggling BVR capability the only thing that can rival i are the F4F ICE really at 13.0 now which is also op at 13.0

but ofcourse its a premium

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Moving up the Su-30 would be a good idea, and I do agree with you on that. However, it could also make downtiers for the F-14D a thing of the past because the Su-30 is so popular. The real solution is decompression.

An F-14D with the six AIM-120s would be better at long ranges, but the Su-30 would still reign supreme in close-range engagements thanks to its excellent missiles and HMD. 13.3 would be excellent, and players would finally get an AMRAAM-equipped F-14. Alternatively, they could add an AMRAAM-capable version to the tech tree.

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So getting its weapons always comes with a br raise?

Generally you buff something, then wait and see if it needs a raise.

That plane isn’t super common anyways

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You dont need to wait to see that su25t and su39 cant sit as same br if su39 gets r27. One is already superior to another and r27 will make performance gap bigger.