Sorry guy this topic was about F-14D. Stop off topic please. And find the way to fix F-14D that our community want just like 7P and fixing stat of Phoenix.
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Ah yes. Iran known for their honesty. And what track record does the fakour 90 have?
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The seeker is the same as the AIM-54’s, and you know that the AIM-54 has a hit probability of around 40%
i said it was very strong for its BR but not the strongest in the game. which was and is true. you dont seriously believe the IRAIF was better than the F-15JM right?
there was also the ET. both were by far the strongest missiles in the game paired with an HMD platform and usable FM.
Gaijin would not add that seeker into the game unless they also added meteors, they’ve already shown they can butcher up other missiles like the 54C+
It doesn’t even have official data under it. Some wiki , based on some claims a cousin of the best friend of someone in the government said. He is legit.
What we know is that it is a mix of a Phoenix body and radar and HAWK’s electronics and engine (upgraded or not and to what extend…no data) - I say 54s radar because MIM-23 was SARH…it had no radar and AWG-9 /54A works. If it has no radar and it’s a full HAWK missile in 54 body… it’s SARH not ARH.
Until the F-14D gets missiles in the same kinematic spot as Fakor-90’s Its a bust for me. The idea that the designers and engineers of the AIM-54C+ managed to lose 20lb of heavy legacy electronics for a newer lightweight and smaller electronics package but forgot to add more propellent or explosive fill for the missile is laughable.
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They said they would try to “give it a nudge” just to represent the fact that the C+, which replaced the C while having the same stats in-game, is better in some areas. So you can probably expect something like +2 G, slightly higher speed, or slightly better chaff resistance, but nothing major.
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What exactly was the F-14D designed for in terms of operational role and mission, But what exactly are we arguing and asking for in the first place
There are even comparisons being made between the F-14 and the Su-30, despite the fact that these two aircraft were designed for different roles and intended to carry out different missions
And how are we supposed to compare the AIM-120 AMRAAM with the AIM-54C when they were designed to fulfill different mission requirements
Perhaps it’s time to ask the players what they actually want: a fighter designed to launch AMRAAMs like every other modern aircraft, or a true interceptor that fulfills its intended military role Or perhaps it’s time for the R-33 to be introduced as a proper counterpart to the AIM-54C
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We want an accurate performing pheonix missile for the F14 lineup, even if it means higher BR. It no longer needs to be nerfed so heavily
It should atleast be Mach 5 and have all aspect, minimum.
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So which missile variant do you think the F-14D should be equipped with
F14D role in real life was supposed to be like the F15E it upgrades were supposed to allow it to use more modern armaments like aim120A,gbus,harms,harpoons, etc… basically everything in the navy’s inventory but funding cut reduced the f14D capabilities only apg71, lantirn package, avionics upgrades and few other things makes the f14D different from the f14B/(u)
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If we want to be really specific, the F-14D should at least have access to the proper AIM-54C variants with accurate performance, whether that is the Mk 47 or Mk 60 motor version.
The bigger issue is that the in-game AIM-54C should not just feel like a slightly renamed AIM-54A. The C model had major guidance/electronics improvements, and the later ECCM/Sealed / ECP-82 configuration added even more improvements in electronic protection and sealed/dry operation.
A lot of the AIM-54C+ discussion gets messy because C+ seems to refer more to the upgraded AIM-54C/ECP-82 configuration than a completely separate missile. From what I understand, the main changes were things like improved ECCM/jamming resistance, the sealed/internal cooling setup, and on the High Power Phoenix side, things like the upgraded TWT transmitter and other electronics improvements.
So honestly, the exact in-game name matters less to me than the modeling. If it is called AIM-54C, AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed, or AIM-54C with ECP-82, it should perform like the later improved Phoenix it actually was, not like a barely changed AIM-54A.
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lol like gajin would actually listen
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I think I understand now, because the AIM-120 and the AIM-54 serve different purposes and were designed for different engagement ranges Or, to put it another way, we’re asking a long-range interceptor to perform the role of a frontline fighter
I understand why they wont give the 120 because it wasnt operational, only tested, but they keep denying what was actually operational.
They have to because it’s not an argument when you look at russian vehicles
Of course, in Simulator Battles, if one aircraft significantly outperforms everything on the opposing side, would anyone on the other team even want to play against it
It’s certainly a good thing to see new weapons being introduced, but we may be overlooking one important question: will the balance between the two sides still be maintained
Which BATTLE RATING do you want for an F-14?
I don’t really want a specific one, it just depends what kind of weapons it gets or how much the 54C get improved.