I get that point, and I agree balance matters. I don’t want one side to have a free advantage either.
My issue is more that the historical and balance arguments keep getting mixed together. If the F-14D had access to a later/improved AIM-54C configuration, then the historical capability should be acknowledged. Whether it should be added at the current BR, limited in quantity, or paired with a BR increase is a separate balance discussion.
Also, long-range capability does not automatically mean dominance. Phoenix-style missiles create pressure, but they are not the same as modern close/mid-range Fox-3s, and aware players can defend against them. Its just WAY too easy to defend them currently, partly because their flight profile is wrong, speed is wrong and seeker is wrong.
I understand, because we’re talking about a realistic game, but it’s still not reality
I still believe that in the future we will eventually get what we should have, but right now is simply not the right time
Well, I think in the end it comes down to the developers’ decisions on how to handle things. Whether the simulator they create will have a player base or not is ultimately their responsibility, and they have to accept the risks that come with it
Because I believe we can definitely make good use of what we have to play it effectively
For me, fun gameplay is not about having an advantage over other players, but about being able to use aircraft with equal or even inferior performance and still fight effectively and with respect, In the future, we will still be able to receive new additions when the time is right
They only comparing them because some people witch im one of those think the f14D should have access to Aim120A,aim9m,aim7p,aim54c+ at 13.3 since gajin added the su30mk2/mkk to 13.3 with 10 missiles both fox3/fox 2 irccm
Actually the f14 is a medium to long range interceptor that can also dogfight if needed to so it can be a front line fighter and is proven in real life
Not really, we would have to see how much it changes the plane performance on practice and I am not a big fan of the 120s on it to be honest, even though I would not mind.
That’s correct, but the Su-30 is a multirole aircraft
It only has medium- to long-range air-to-air missiles, but no true ultra-long-range capability
We also need to consider the mission roles of each aircraft model in order to properly integrate and balance different players’ playstyles
And I am one of those who simply want to own it, not because of its performance, but because it’s an aircraft I like and one that holds personal memories
Right now, if you play with the F14 and go up against R77s, AIM-120’s, Sure you get to launch first but it feels like you still get hit before your missiles get to the target because the top speed and energy retention are so nerfed.
As for me, I think the plane is fine 13.0 with Fox-3 all-aspect radar, AIM-9M, a good airframe, and a nice premium. I’d prefer it to be a TT vehicle with better missiles, maybye
Yeah about the same, perfect scenario to me is just putting the AIM-54C+ and the flight model to their most accurate. The 120s are cool but it remove some of the personality of the plane.
If it uses the proper lofting profile and true top speed it wont loose energy as bad, with the improved seeker head like it should have, it will have better targeting and tracking on its own, also PD and all aspect. The AIM54C in the game right now is so innacurately modeled
You can launch a phoenix way before any of the other fox 3’s except fakour and It does technically give an advantage but with how unplayable it is in some matches, I think It would balance out with a performance buff. Even if its not perfectly accurate.
You know that top speed doesn’t really matter; the missile in War Thunder goes past Mach 4, but that’s only under ideal conditions you’ll never see. It doesn’t matter if the stat card says Mach 10 it’ll never reach that speed.
Because it’s a game and the missile was added to balance it out
The AIM-54 was designed for something completely different from the other Fox-3s , even with the correct model, the AIM-54 will never hit the target before the other Fox-3s
IRL it would loft much higher and face less air resistence so it would retain energy better right? Its not like I am an Aerospace Engineer or anything, I might know something about aerodynamics. If its top speed is accurate, and lofting is accurate, It will atleast have a chance to reach its target.