It’s literally better than the 13.7 J-11B, but it got ‘SU’ in the name so here we are.
His arguments and sources would get rejected so hard as a bug report :(
True, the premium SU-30 is designed for Tier 13.7; you could add two more ARHs and easily move it up to Tier 13.7, but even with just six Fox 3s, I think it could handle Tier 13.7—it has a very finicky radar and an RWR range of only 30’, but as grinders, they’d still be able to hold their own at a higher BR than they currently have.
Its so funny that the IRIAF F14 gets missiles that are just so much better than the F14D thats supposed to be the best tomcat lol.
Thats a lot of AAM for F 14 Standarts.
+1 would want that aswell.
The F-14D was designed knowing it would be phased out within a few years. there was little incentive or funding to develop anything truly revolutionary. Iran, on the other hand, was forced to develop something to ensure their aircraft remained superior. It’s only natural that the Fakour is superior in terms of flight performance. however, the BR is also different one is 13.3 and the other is 13.0.
Its so funny that that F14 was added to the US TT. This way I cannot pound any IRGC without obtaining a TK.
The BMPT was released at 10.3-10.7 I forget which BR, that’s also why the booker was canceled cause it wasn’t 2023 standard and damn sure isn’t now, quite literally a waste of tax dollars
You added the rest of that paragraph so I’m not sure if you’re also saying that’s cope but not taking into the fact that aim 9Xs were made in the late 80s and we still haven’t seen that added( on aircraft) The US is stuck with 9Ms, France gets radar guided 50 G missiles, so there is no reason at all us aircraft shouldn’t have 9Xs which have way less range, and aim 9Xs get flared head on still.
It’s not American cope, the F15 was undefeated for 50 years and you get on war thunder and it makes you wonder “how was this plane 104-0” and they’re about to ruin the F14D now
But I understand why they make all the planes so underpowered, I’m 100% sure some government or entity has made deals with gaijin and that they want people to release classified docs, cause honestly that’s very smart, you don’t even need spys anymore to commit and risk their life joining a opposition military just to get info, you can just pay a video game company to destroy the morale of a country in a game to where they release classified info, just to improve the vehicle in game. I’ve seen what some of the devs look like (they look like they’d be at antifa riots throwing bricks at ICE and Police officers) so I absolutely believe they’d be foaming at the mouth to get money to have American/NATO docs released
M1128 then? Almost the same story. 2007 vehicle that can fight 1971 T-64A and sits at the same BR as 1985 Challenger 1 or T-72B1 and T-80B. You are moving the goalpost. First it was about BR and introduction date, now about only production and successful vehicles. What’s next?
You mean early 2000s? (IOC 2003)

Btw. MICA literally predates AIM-120D you have in game on american aircraft by almost 10 years…
I have stamped lobbies in all of the US tree planes I’ve played so far. Not far off of the A10 now
Sorry what ?
When the F15E dropped it just sat in LAO and dropped amraams on people who literally couldn’t respond.
The F15A while not better than gripen was still one of the best planes for its time as well.
The F16C again heavier than the A but was and is no slouch.
What are you on about 😒😂 also tbe iriaf dominated for ages and destroyed its entire BR range.
Battlefield and airspace control, logistics, tactics and lets face it, at times facing relatively inferior enemy or having massive advantage etc.
People who think that figure came solely from F-15 performance need to rethink their argument ;)
F-15I was and still is objectively better. Russian jets got R27ER when fighting the F-16. IRIAF was very strong for its BR but not the strongest top tier
I’m not moving goalpost the BMPT is in Ukraine fighting right now, while the 1128 and m10 booker are both retired vehicles, sure the booker is newer but it’s old technology which was prolly planned years ago and the 1128 just doesn’t compete or compare with a BMPT at all, I feel like it’s pretty obvious they’ve juiced other nations, they’re about to release another Abrams that was made in the 2010s and still has the same armor as its 1970s counterpart and that’s “American cope”?
I don’t have a problem with micas being in the game, I have a problem with them having no match especially from the US TT perspective, 120s won’t pull right off the rail so you resort to shooting a 9M head on and well that gets 1 flared, and then on top of that the rafale can almost instantly turn into a notch,
LATE 90s and early 2000 BUT OK,
Comparing radar-guided missiles with state-of-the-art heat-seeking missiles makes no sense whatsoever, given that the AIM-9X is ten times more lethal than the MICA.
Nice joke you know, the AIM-9Xs on the anti-aircraftdon’t actually exist, they’re just a figment of the imagination
They cover 12 km on the ground; you know that when fitted to a plane travelling at Mach 1.5, they cover twice that distance or more, don’t you?
Yeah the most dominate fighter in the US TT is an Iranian jet isn’t that a bit weird???
For a year, the F-14s dominated, the F-15E dominated, the F-16 dominated a selective choice of time periods?
The R27ER was not that big an issue mate, the F16a still kept up and dogwalked it in every other way bar that. And the initial G limiter.
For ARB the F15E absolutely dominated lobbies. Arguing that the F15I is objectively “better” isn’t changing the fact the F15E dominated those lobbies lol.
It still absolutely slapped when uptiered mate, to act like it didn’t and still doesn’t is disingenious.
Booker never entered service due to being outwith the limits whcih were set for it’s creation last I checked.
M1128 is slinging M900 at 10.3 man, it’s still potent AF for it’s BR.
or the 120S with M829A1 at it’s BR.
The reports still not answered yet ,as well that the turret armours buffed, and the internals got buffed last I checked.
Im not understanding? I’m talking about in on an aircraft, aim 9Xs will still get flared head on so it’s not like they’re unstoppable
The missile is actually virtually impossible to dodge IRL what are you talking about, men?
Do you know what an IIR seeker is?