[POLL] We want to see a Visegrád tech tree in game!

We want to see a Visegrád tech tree in game!

Do you want to see a Visegrád tech tree in game?
  • Yes!
  • I’m not sure
  • No!
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Adding a Visegrád tech tree to War Thunder would introduce a unique blend of military equipment from Central European nations that have a rich and diverse history of developing armoured vehicles, aircraft, and other military technology. The Visegrád Group, composed of Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia, has a unique mix of Soviet-influenced and homegrown designs that could offer a fresh dynamic to the game.

Unity is the way!
In an email replying to Shushixo’s question on whether or not a Polish tech tree could be added, sourcefor this: Source 1,Source 2
You clearly stated the following,
“You see, the best (and the only) way to communicate ideas like yours to us is via relevant communication platforms (our official forum, unofficial Reddit, etc.), where a lot of other players can join together and support something they consider important. Our community managers monitor popular threads and report about them to the developers, this approach allows us too see what big groups of players want, and also allows us to see live discussions between players on what is important for them”

We hope that united, the communities of the V-4 countries will provide enough voting power to convince Gaijin to finally add this tech tree.

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In-Game Purpose

The purpose of the Visegrád Group, or the V-4, in-game is to provide an efficient way to incorporate Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary while ensuring their growth remains competitive long-term. Independently, these nations might struggle to keep up with more established nations, like Germany, the U.S., or the Soviet Union, which have a broader array of available vehicles. This approach would allow these nations to be added to the game without having to serve as sub-trees (I will discuss Hungary’s place in Italy shortly). My team and I believe that, after all these years, the Visegrád Group deserves its own tech tree in the game. This would be the best way to introduce these nations, maximize the number of original vehicles, and introduce new, unique content. These nations will co-operate well togather, and the tech tree will be well-future-proofed with the rapid development of the Visegrád nations’ military capabilities.

Ground Tech tree

A Visegrád-Ground Forces suggestion has already been made by @Yontzee The Visegrád Group Tree (PL, CZ, HU, SK): European Powerhouse, but the tech tree has become a bit-outdated and some BR adjustments were deseparetly needed, and some important vehicles were missing, so me and my team took what ever pieces were left and decided to go make our own up-to-date tech tree!


Visegrád-Ground Forces

Pie chart showing what vehicles’s there are in our tech tree

History:

  • The Visegrad Group, or V4, is a political and cultural alliance that includes four Central European countries: Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia. It was founded on February 15, 1991, in Visegrad, Hungary, with the signing of the Visegrad Declaration. The group’s primary aim is to foster cooperation and mutual support among its members, particularly in areas like economic integration, cultural exchange, and security.

  • The V4 was established during a period of major political change in Central and Eastern Europe as the region transitioned from communism to democracy. These four countries share a common heritage, close cultural ties, and a history of economic cooperation. Today, they are all members of the European Union (EU) and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), and they have each undergone significant transformations in the post-communist era.

  • A key motivation for the Visegrad Group’s formation was the goal of advancing economic collaboration. Since its creation, the V4 has worked to promote trade and investment within the region and to align their economic stances within the EU. In recent years, the Visegrad Group has also influenced EU policy, especially on energy security and the Eastern Partnership. The group has been a strong advocate for diversifying Europe’s energy sources, focusing on new gas pipeline projects and nuclear energy expansion.

  • Beyond politics and economics, the Visegrad Group promotes cultural and educational exchange among its members. It has created various programs to support language learning, student mobility, and cultural interactions, strengthening ties and fostering a shared sense of identity across the member states.

Military History:

  • Since its founding, the Visegrad Group has worked to strengthen military cooperation among its member states. This includes establishing joint military exercises, training programs, and procurement initiatives designed to improve interoperability and readiness of their armed forces. A central goal of Visegrad Group’s defense efforts is to enhance the collective security of its members and promote regional stability.

  • One major achievement in this area is the creation of the Visegrad Battlegroup (V4BG), a 3,000-soldier unit comprised of forces from all four countries. This battlegroup is designed for rapid deployment and supports EU and NATO missions in times of crisis. Beyond the V4BG, the Visegrad Group has also set up a joint air defense system and a cyber defense center, all of which aim to improve the region’s collective defense capabilities and prepare for emerging security threats.

  • In response to rising tensions with Russia, the Visegrad Group has advocated for increased NATO presence in the region and called for a strong response to Russian actions, especially regarding the conflict in Ukraine. Simultaneously, the group has sought to build military partnerships outside the region, collaborating with countries like the United States, Canada, and Israel, while also deepening ties with NATO and the EU.

  • The Visegrad Group remains an important platform for military coordination among its members, contributing to regional security and strengthening the European defense framework as a whole.

What would happen to Italy?

What will happen to Italy, many of you may ask. The truth is that the future of Italy is quite uncertain, and we don’t know exactly what Gaijin will do. However, my developer team and I are working on a possible replacement sub-tree for Italy, or perhaps a visual concept. For those who have purchased Hungarian vehicles in Italy, these would stay in the Italian tech tree and become hidden for new players who did not buy them, giving you a rare collection of vehicles—hooray! Italy may experience some difficulties for a while, but if you prepare by grinding out the Hungarian line, you should be fine. Given Gaijin’s current approach with Italy and the potential addition of Romanian vehicles, we could even see a new Romanian sub-tree added to the game. It would be a win-win for everyone if this happens.
Here is a visualisation made by my developer @zozo1944 to show what a Spanish/Romaian sub-tree could look like in Italy: The Sub-Tree

Special thanks:

Honestly I don’t think I would have enough motivation and time to do this project all by my self ,the idea that would have finally died out, but thank you so much to @FancyFly and @zozo1944 my head developers helped a lot , again another big thanks to my developers @Smartwex_CZDAN and @Eryk12341932 for helping when ever you could. I would have never probably completed this tech tree without you guys 🫡.

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I have done my part o7, good luck guys

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Hold on a minute.
I have Purchased the Leopard 2PL recently. And my question is. What will happen to it? (Will i get a refund?, Will it just be still the same?,Or is it going to be Unlocked in the Visegrád Techtree?

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That is a very common question, what will probably happen is thay all your SL and SRP will be refunded, what tank would replace the 2PL, we are still not exactly sure tank it would be, but the Leopard 2SG would be a great alternative to replace the 2PL as the tanks are pretty similar in most aspects.
If you want to learn more about the 2SG click this link: The Leopard 2SG

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Well i think the best option for it to become hidden and unavaible for new players same as 10,5 cm tiger 2

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Thank you so much.
Also love your Country (If you really are polish)

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100% polish

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Aight

Still great country

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Also Maybe but some people would sell it for 2000 gajin coins so yeah. (Or not even that much cause you can just grind it out in the Visegrád Tech tree

Hope Gaijin finally listen to players and add this tech tree bc it one of a kind with its vechicles(like all of tt)

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especially this bad boy!

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The only time Warthunder listened to the community was when they added Hungary to Italy instead of making it its own tech tree (One of the worst Changes in my opinion)

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They didn’t listen to the Hungarian community thats the thing, It was the Italian community mostly.

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Cause they wanted actually good tanks (and planes)

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i think u missunderstood, if this was to happen it couldnt be sold on marketplacet bc vechicles removed aren obtainable, same with flakpanzer 241, panther II, tiger 2 10,5 cm kwk, but it the leo2pl would still remain german but unobtainle

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heheh

Looks good!

Why is the T-34-85M2 at 6.3, I assume HEAT rounds?

The description also mentions enhanced armour for some reason, while also saying in the stats it has the same armour.

Yeah so true (i forgor about that)

yeah right, like why cant they accuatly listen to community, and in the polish version of ads of warthunder they say the devs accuatly listen to the player base

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Yeah its still being tested and rewritten in some parts