statshark is overestimating the Mig-29
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I’m aware of statshark not being 100% correct for everything, but the mig-29 still outrates the F-18, and almost matches the F-14 while doing tighter circles and having better 1C and vertical performance overall.
I don’t personally “test” FM with statshark, I only talk about my own ingame testing with WTRTI. But not everyone has access to every FM in game.
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I haven’t dueled with proper players to make my conclusion to which is overall better in a dogfight. All I know is that the mig-29 has better unsustained energy retention and sustained turn rate, while the F-18 has better nose authority for 1C at slow speeds.
The F-18 will be agressive and might have a gun solution early but if you are on the mig-29 you can bait it into it and try to mitigate being sniped and then force the rate fight since the F-18 will be slow AF.
The F-18 can’t run away if he starts losing positioning, the mig-29 absolutely can. Like you said, I’d also rather be on the mig29 too for that reason
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it does not statshark overestimates the Mig-29 by around 2° per second STR
so if it looks close on statshark the F-14 will win the rate fight without problems in the game
and statshark shows that the mig-29 has a STR of around 1.5° higher than the F-18 which means that they have around the same rate if we consider that statshark is overestimating the Mig by around 2°
then there are the jets that are able to outrate the mig-29 even if we dont consider that statshark is overestimating the mig-29
ontop of that the F-18 can easily win against the Mig-29 by not ratefighting but by one circle fighting
(i know it is really suprising that a jet desidned for the 1c is not a great rate fighter)
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I’ll also answer this one:
F-15E, Mirage 4000, Su-34, Su-30SM… okay good your post did use turnfight and not one circle.
The ones I know off the top of my head.
Any more nuanced things would require testing.
I suspect F-14A may get beaten.
F-14B didn’t the last time I dogfought Mig-29.
I am curious about F-16C Block 40 vs Mig-29.
if you turn away in the mig you will eat a missile, congratulations
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its the 29G flight manual, unrestricted and unclassified since the early 2000s
widely available online too
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Not really u less you’re talking about top tier fa18, the 12.7 ones only get sparrows and 9ls which are easily defeated
all of them have ways to defeat the Mig-29 in a dogfight
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not if you run away
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Eat what? A flare hungry aim-9L? An unreliable aim-7F from rear aspect which is also easily multipathed?
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flare hungry 9L good joke
that thing has the highest flare resistance of all non IRCCM missiles in the game
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I’m pretty sure r24t is the best non irccm missile, even then u less sub .8 km rear aspect its trivial to flare them
Not good enough to avoid getting 1 flared consistently in everything except F-14s and harriers
You should show bleed rates as well although statshark over estimates 29 fm
what you gonna eat from a MiG-29?
a R60M? or a R27ER that is easily multipathed
stupid argument
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it doesnt totally overestimate it, from my testing it is just INSANELY hard to achieve those numbers.
The 29 has insanely tight sweet spots for its turning, you can achieve most values in statshark but you need to pull the perfect amount of AOA to do so
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Difference is that 29 can run away fairly easily (as long as it’s an isolated 1v1) and reset the fight.
and then eat a missile in the process, you cant simply disengage in a fight
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