[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

it has 5 minutes of afterburner time (if you go full AB - wich you would while running away)

it also only has 15 pops of CMs at 50/50 chaff/flare, so defeating missiles is more of a last clutch situation then something you can do constantly

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Yeah you’re not eating 9l bro, those things are super easy to flare in any plane that’s not a 14. Sparrows you can easily out roll or in sim just multi path

if you think the mig is that good why arent you using it in sim?

I am using it a lot, its my most played plane in the entire game lol

iam not talking to you

Mig-29 STR on statshark is actually ok at 22deg/s at around 700kph. The slow speeds are wrong though.

Also the Mig-29 will not ratefight the F-14, it will often force the 1C by offsetting into verticals, best option for the F-14 is to start running away at that point since you’ll still have a speed advantage when it starts losing positioning

sure i want to see you keep that rate in a mig-29, good luck

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I don’t think it’s that good I’m just saying it’s definitely comparable to the fa18 (still worse imo). It definitely has options and deserves to be at 12.7

It would be a pretty big nerf for that plane, as it can much easier make use out of ERs than 73s.

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2 degrees?
It’s ~0.7 on full fuel.

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Also whoever cited F-18C… no, that thing’s America’s best dogfighter for a reason and is currently rather correct which means the Mig-29 shouldn’t win in its current state.

the 29G actually went 1-1 with the Swiss F18Cs in mockfights

just wanted to throw this out here lol

same result with US Navy pilots in 1996
id recommened to anyone who thinks the 29FM is correct rn to watch this:

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you dont dogfight with full fuel in a mig-29

you might as well j out when that happens

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Who said anything about the mig-29 outrating the F-14? Guy talked about turnfighting, I think he means dogfighting, turn fighting doesn’t mean specifically ratefighting.

and the mig-29 loses to the f-14

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turnfighting is 1 circle
Ratefighting is 2 circle

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So if you meant 1C, then…

Mig-29 beats F-14A in 1C fight and can force the 1C.
Mig-29 doesnt beat the F-18 in 1C fight but the F-18 doesnt have enough performance to force the 1C onto the mig-29, while the Mig-29 can force the 2C onto the F-18.

Maybe you lose to the F-14. MiG-29 completely crushes F-14s in a 1v1. Not only does it have marginally better dogfighting FM, it has a much better loadout to force the F-14 to start dogfighting in a losing position

and the F-14 can do the same to the mig

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Maybe if ron_23 flies the mig29