[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

yes only on the inner wing pylon

it can not carry the 27er and not even 4 r-27r’s

yes a while after they gave it the r27er (which it shouldnt have) and never giving it the r73 which they promised they would add to the mig29

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R-27ER is a guaranteed kill, at least you can flare the R-73

Mig-29 has not been nerfed since its release nerfs, and its flight model is currently likely accurate.
What’s incorrect is the thrust curve from ~400kph to 650+kph. Source is Mikoyan documents.

Edit:
Here’s Merf’s post on the matter that proves the claims Merf and I made:

leave it up to you to contradict yourself in the same message

thrust affects the flight model of a jet quite heavily

and the flight model has been nerfed

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I dunno man. The videos of the moves the mig29 can do IRL are not what we have in WT.

IMO the su27 is great. Every other ruski TT is mid or just shit

Su30 for eg… thrust vector? Where and when? Its deffinition of a brick at every speed.

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Viggen hiding in the corner

Yak 141 is literally the best 12.7 and mig29a is also is pretty comfortable there

Hmm never used it.

After props ruski tree is pretty meh.
Bad guns. low ammo. Bad RWR. Bad radar. Shit missiles other than the 27’s.

Very overated IMO.

China > ruski all day

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@ron_23
Your post indicates lack of knowledge on what contradiction means.
Engines are not the flight model.
Thrust impacts flight performance, not the flight model.

@tokerstar Glad you and I agree.

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you post shows that you have no clue on what you are talking about

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There are LOTS of very good TT russian jets after props, more than there are in the chinese TT

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@ron_23 I’ll wait for you to disprove Mikoyan’s own documents then, since you’re claiming they are wrong.

then show me the documents that show that it is performing corretly i will wait

show me your document that is a better sources than the Mig-29 aerodynamics study
you have already proven to me before that you are not competent enough to talk about aerodynamics

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J7E> all migs
Mirage> all ruski jets
J10> all ruski jets
J11> ruski flankers
China has mig19, mig21 9.7 with more ammo, the J7D is also better than migs IMO.

You miss nothing if you have china. I should of done france tree

Which leaves the mig23… which i dont like either lol.

@ron_23
Why would I attempt to disprove my own claim that the engines are incorrect?
The Mig-29 Aerodynamics study and Mikoyan documents are accurate.

The fact you claim they’re wrong just because I say they’re right is hilarious.

That’s an extreme oversimplification.

By BR order, the following are all quite good TT soviet jets:

Yak15, yak17, La-200, Mig-15, Mig-15bis, yak-23, yak-30D, Mig-19PT, Mig-21smt, Mig-21bis, Mig-23M, Mig-23mld, Mig-29A, yak141, Su-27, Su-30SM

I don’t regret it, it’s a fast TT to grind and has some unique vehicles or variants.

burden of proof is on you

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he has no proof for his outlandish statments thats why he deflected and twisted my words

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Mikoyans documents say that you are wrong
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thrust roughly lines up at around mach 0.9 but at any other speed it is incorrect

which was shown to you yesterday by @Merf_HD

so the thrust curve is wrong at pretty much every speed

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@f15j_anmeagle @ron_23
Not sure why you two are claiming there’s no proof of Mig-29 being incorrect.
It’s common knowledge that the anti-FOD device is incorrectly tuned in-game.

As you can see it’s producing significantly less thrust than it should at sea level at lower speeds, proving my statements entirely accurate that the thrust curve is wrong.


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Edit:
Ron you even agreed in your most recent post about this… so why are we arguing?

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