[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

just read yesterdays conversation if you like reading my messages that much we literally went through this before

the M2K at 12.7 is pretty much equal to an r-27r + r-73 mig29

if you cant see that iam sorry for you but there is nothing left to argue here as this would just be a repeat of yestereday

where let me remind you, you started to insult me

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you have never brought chaff to top tier?

yeah ok, I dont think youre in any place to talk about any plane above 11.0 dawg

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When did Mirage 2000 get the ability to carry 6x Magic 2s so I can use it like the Mig-29G?

@Merf_HD
So players that have completed all ten tech trees and play top BR have no place to talk according to your post… Okay buddy.

Mig-29’s drag is potentially accurate.
What’s incorrect is the thrust curve from 400kph to 650+kph.

how bad that the 29 is horrifically bad acceleration due to its unrealistic static drag.

And no, speed advantage in top tier is going into the battle.
ive just explained 3 FUCKING CONSECUTIVE TIMES THAT YOU WONT BOOM AND ZOOM A MACH 3 MISSILE DAWG.

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explains your KD in the 15E

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It explains why it’s 2:1 when using it in its spaded state.
It was used exclusively as a bomber until it was performance spaded and it only had access to 2x AIM-120s until it was pretty much spaded cause the modules order is cooked with that aircraft. And even when using it as a bomber I still did better than I thought.
There were 6ish crashes due to compression, and the rest were losses to dogfights because teams collapsed before my bombs were off.

Better FM than F-14, F-18 and arguably on par or better than M2k because it compresses much less and accelerates faster. It’s at least average for the BR

It’s effectively one of the best radar kits for 12.7, only surpassed by the Yak141.

F-18A at 12.3 has a better radar
F-18C early at 12.7 has a better radar
F-20 has a better radar
Swiss F-5E at 11.0 has a better radar

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a player who is negative and has below 200 kills in a jet shouldnt talk about that jet like he is a know-how-know-all

the 29 is only conceptionilized for a maximum of 40 tons of drag at AOA, ingame you can experience up to 70.000kgf

also wrong, the thrust is innaccurate from 0-1000km/h
above 1200km/h its also wrong as it exceeds anything seen irl
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None of those have HMD, and some don’t even have TWS

all of them besides the F-20 have TWS
also the HMS dosent change the function of the radar

the radar is the thing that searches for stuff and the mig29 radar does a pretty bad job at that

BETTER FLIGHT MODEL THAN A F18???

the f18 outaccelerates, outturns, outrates and out-AOAs the 29 dawg???!??!

the only thing the 29 is better at is climbing


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Still one of the best 12.7 radars, only yak141 is better

a mig29 limited to only 4 R73s and 27Rs would be a case of asymmetrical balance compared to the mirage as the 29 would get 2 more missiles, while the mirage would have; almost triple the amount of countermeasures, much better avionics and much better flight model.

i just listed you 4 radars that are better than it and some of them are at a lower br

@Merf_HD
So we agree that the thrust curve on Mig-29 is incorrect. Good.

Negative? The only aircraft I get near negative on are bombers for spading, because bombing takes time and is inherently more dangerous.
F-14A: 2:1.
F-14B: 1.7:1.
F-15J: 1.5:1.
F-15JM: 1.5:1.
F-16AJ: 2:1.
F-2A: 2:1.
F-4EJ Kai: 2:1.
F-18C Late: 1.9:1.
Mig-29 9.12: 2:1.
Mig-29G: 1.9:1.

I do not and will never know how to be the best fighter pilot, nor do I care to.
Defyn is a better source of knowledge in that regard.

the F15E is a bomber?

F-18 is too slow after mach1, and bleeds too much speed on top of that. Mig-29 goes 1500kph on the deck, and it’s not much worse in turning or energy retention.

Mig-29 is a better FM for the meta. Not everything is about merging 1v1 duels

But they aren’t better. Mig29 has a reliable medium prf pd radar and HMD. Stop coping. Only the yak141 is better under 13.0

do you ratefight at mach 1.3, or how does more speed help your flight model against the F18?

also ignoring the fact that the F18 does not nearly compress as bad as the 29 at 0.8-1.0mach

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