They are the same. USMC model is a little lighter and faster though.
You’re overestimating the value of speed at top tier. In lower BRs like 9.0, fast planes like the F-104 can boom and zoom effectively because there are fewer ways to counter them. But at high tiers, where BVR missiles dominate, that playstyle simply doesn’t work. A MiG-29A going Mach 1.3 isn’t outrunning an R-27ER or a Sparrow going Mach 4–5 with 80+ km range. Speed alone won’t save you. The only real use for speed at this level is to extend missile range — that’s why the F-15E is so dangerous. But if you remove the MiG-29A’s R-27ER and give it only R-73s, it loses that BVR capability entirely. In that case, its speed becomes almost meaningless in the current meta, and certainly doesn’t justify a BR increase. You can’t apply 9.0 logic to 12.7+.
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yeah but you can just slew the tws around, plus 50 degrees is perfectly fine. just slew the radar or your plane around
so it has a better flight performance
than the F4U-A1 while sitting at the same BR as it
didnt really change my point to much
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BR compression. Do I have to spell it?
Still more effective than the Belgian F-16A, which doesn’t deserve 13.0 but surely deserves to be higher than 12.7.
Such is the way of BR compression.
Yes, I’m not denying that. And the Japanese one is a regular -1A, not USMC model. But the engines ARE the same.
@Merf_HD
Air spawns are common place now, and you have 8 minutes of fuel in the Mig-29 when drop tank is equipped and you go into the battlefield using doctrinal tactics: Off AB.
You have even more fuel if you climb.
Complaining about that fuel time.
@ron_23 Please tell us how the PW R-2800-8W is better than the PW R-2800-8W is better than the PW R-2800-8W is better than the PW R-2800-8W is better than the PW R-2800-8W…
All F4U-1 aircraft use the PW R-2800-8W, none of them use a different engine at this time.
@PercussionCap
And all of them have almost identical climb rates because all of them use the same engine and the marginal weight differences aren’t as noticeable.
@Ion_492
That’s why Gaijin doesn’t use economic data in a vacuum for balancing.
I mean ig?
but still what would you need TWS for if you dont have any BVR missiles to use it with (im not counting the R27R as a bvr missile lol)
you couldnt give me a good argument why the mig29 with r27r and r73 shouldnt be 12.7 yesterday and it dosent seem like it changed at all
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so you wouldnt notice a a difference in the flight performance if 2 equal pilots were to fight
you are delusional
What’s your good argument for it to be 12.7? Because you can’t play and want to sealclub?
so you want to repeat yesterdays argument?
just scroll up if you already forgot
r-27 not being a bvr missile is a crazy take, it’s better than the 7f/m imo plus it has plenty of range in a straight line. Although, I can see this being partially true, as personally, the only time i use r-27rs (on the yak on the outer pylons) are 90 percent of the time sub 8 km, while er i shoot sub 20km.
boom, you loose the speed advantage.
if you climb you will have to use a lot more chaff and are far less maneuverable.
Im sorry but at a BR with so many fox-3s a BVRless plane with 15x pops of chaff shouldnt go for high altitude fighting
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oh and a sacrement of speed not being everything is the MiG-29SMT
the SMT has fox-3s and is one of the fastest planes on the deck and at altitude in the 13.0-14.0 range, yet its only 13.3 due to suffering other problems (like being a brick)
speed is not anything in these BR ranges, talking with you feels like youve never played top tier before
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lets not talk about smt, that thing is so bad at high speeds, i dont think there’s a plane other than the su-33 that loses more speed than it at high speeds at those battle ratings
Your whole argument is that it would be a worse Mig-29G and as such it needs to be 12.7…
Lets take your bias tinted glasses away and take a good look at the belgian F-16A vs F-15A. The F-16 is clearly inferior, by not even having radar missiles, and still sits at 13.0
And that’s for a good reason, because it would be even more unbalanced at 12.7 with IRCCM missiles, being a good platform and all.
The Mig-29A with R-73 and R-27R would be BETTER than that the Belgian F-16A and you want it at 12.7?? Delusional
(same high speed performance as 29A lol)
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the 29 isnt a good platform tho
Horrible RWR
one of the worst flight models at its BR
low Flare count (only 30 pops in total is one of the lowest at the BR)
Pretty bad radar
(it also say horrific cockpit visibility, but that only counts for fellow sim enjoyers lol)
its only real benefit is the HMD
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Yes, F-15E and Mig-29SMT have similarly “bad” high speed flight performance.
@Merf_HD
Speed advantage is not going into the battle, it’s escaping situations and repositioning which is not going into the battlefield.
Please go watch Defyn’s content on how to be a good pilot. He’s a better teacher than I’ll ever be.
I also haven’t brought chaff for PD BRs in over half a year.
Last time I brought chaff was on F-15E sometime around February.
I prioritize positioning and kinetic defeating at this stage cause I learn more from doing those activities than I do from using chaff.