[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early Mig-29 variants

R-73 is OP when paired to a good platform like the mig29 at 12.7

Never said it was OP at 13.0, the most compressed BR in game.

You have IRCCM R-73 at 12.3 in the bison which also carries R-27R
You have IRCCM aim-9m at 12.3 in the GR.7

The bison is undertiered
The gr.7 is a slow jet without radar and no way to slave the missiles. Good dogfighter though, but sadly the game forces you to bring way to much fuel for your average match.

You won’t have any 2+ IRCCM missile loadout on a good and fast FM under 13.0 right now.

I wish Gaijin decompressed things so we could properly place the proposed mig29a loadout and also balance things like the Belgian F-16A

you might as well tell me that you never played the mig-29

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AV8B+ is so slow that its aim-120s are about as dangerous as your average SARH

And the Mig-29A eats F-14B for breakfast in BVR or WVR

he has like 400 kills in it i think he’s pretty experienced in it. The mig29 fm for an average arb match is fine, it just zooms around the battle field slinging ers and going for kills around mach 1. Only in a 1v1 is where it falls off which isn’t arb

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I dont believe so, I prefer the aim-54, im not commenting further on this

like you said, dogfighting doesnt matter.
And what does speed even do? speed only matters for BVR engagements - something an ERless mig-29 would be unable to do

Even the 29G (with ER and R73) struggles against the AV8, so how should one without ER compete in any way

ok, bring 1x Pylon of CMs
now you got 5x 9Ms and 150 single pop CMs (75 if you go 50/50 on flare/chaff)

meanwhile the 29 has 6x R73 and 30x pops of CMs (15x if you go 50/50 on flare/chaff)

Still dont see how thats fair

SPEED ONLY MATTERS IN BVR

A ER-LESS 29 DOESNT BENEFIT FROM SPEED IN ANY WAY AT THESE BRs

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you tell me that the 9m is such a bad missile and yet i see multiple platforms at 13.0 doing way better than the mig-29g which gets 6x r73 while the gripen only gets 6x 9m

so the mig-29g with the r-27er is already doing worse than alot of the 13.0s you said would do worse than a mig-29 with r-73s and yet you cant come to the conclusion that a mig-29g with worse armament might could be fine at 12.7

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I have 800 kills with it and have been playing the 29 since the 29G dropped

Its my main aircraft

And I see 2x specific people in this threat (that im not gonna name) who dont seem to understand this aircraft at all

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I’m sorry but this time Alvis is right ahahah. Aim7F is much more useful on average. (than phoenixes)

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you also completly fail to acknoledge any kind of avionics at all

The fact that the 29s use the SPO-15 and N019 wich are amongst the worst avionics even to lower BRs (12.0) just doesnt matter AT ALL to you?

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Tell me exactly where I said that. I’ll wait.

I just explained the differences between it and your average gatewidth missile.

Gaijin uses economic data, AKA SL and RP, and they rule out different players to make sure skill isn’t a factor.
Citing general KD which Gaijin does not use will not help the conversation.

Also omitting information isn’t cool: These all [except maybe 1C] have the same engine now.

Corsairs use to have vastly different performance in their engines and were updated within the last 2ish years.
Takes time for new data to show up when they’re rarely played due to not being eligible in events and dailies.

@Merf_HD
Speed is survivability, which you should’ve learned in late prop BRs.
In jet BRs speed and energy management and creation is everything.
If speed doesn’t matter why is F-15E 14.0 instead of 13.3 or 13.7?
If speed doesn’t matter why is F-104C 9.3 instead of 8.7? The Mig-17PF is the best dogfighter in that BR range…

Your posts have false accusations against others instead of discussing the points.

I am not your enemy.

Speed matters for a lot more than BVR to be honest. Positioning, defense, running away, interception… By that logic biplanes would be fighting early cold war jets

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they have the same engine

getting more kills will reward you more SL and RP

but sure let me change the filter on statshark so it sorts them for SL earned and then post every 13.0 with more SL earned in here

it is almost like that Kills per Death is a metric to measure performance
but yeah lets just ignore the premium plane which have on average worse players does better than the Mig-29G

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Statshark says that Viggen DI has more skilled players. I trust the website over you.

The post you replied to has also been updated.

This is last month’s stats. Japanese F4U-1 is higher BR than american one despite being the same model.

you are hopless then if you cant understand simple stratistics

the viggen DI F21 (a premium)
does better than the Mig-29 so it also earns more SL

so by your logic the Mig-29G should be at a lower br than it

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i’d rather have n019 than early f-16 radar ngl… tws + wider azimuth

“i would rader have a kinfe in a gun figth”
ahh sentence

It’s the same BR as 2 of the 3 American F4U-1s.
The only one that’s not the same BR is one of the 1As.

@ron_23 Statshark does not have filters that removes players that haven’t flown both the Mig-29G and Viggen Di, thus that conclusion cannot occur.

how? n019 is better in every way other than having a slower src pd mode and no automatic elevation tracking