Gaijin uses economic data, AKA SL and RP, and they rule out different players to make sure skill isn’t a factor.
Citing general KD which Gaijin does not use will not help the conversation.
Also omitting information isn’t cool: These all [except maybe 1C] have the same engine now.
Corsairs use to have vastly different performance in their engines and were updated within the last 2ish years.
Takes time for new data to show up when they’re rarely played due to not being eligible in events and dailies.
@Merf_HD
Speed is survivability, which you should’ve learned in late prop BRs.
In jet BRs speed and energy management and creation is everything.
If speed doesn’t matter why is F-15E 14.0 instead of 13.3 or 13.7?
If speed doesn’t matter why is F-104C 9.3 instead of 8.7? The Mig-17PF is the best dogfighter in that BR range…
Your posts have false accusations against others instead of discussing the points.
Speed matters for a lot more than BVR to be honest. Positioning, defense, running away, interception… By that logic biplanes would be fighting early cold war jets
but sure let me change the filter on statshark so it sorts them for SL earned and then post every 13.0 with more SL earned in here
it is almost like that Kills per Death is a metric to measure performance
but yeah lets just ignore the premium plane which have on average worse players does better than the Mig-29G
Yes, a F104 can boom and zoom easily - wich at those BRs is a valid strategy and essentially uncounterable.
What you fail to understand is that long range (sometimes referred to as BVR) missles make this playstyle obsolete.
The 29s top speed on the deck is Mach 1.3 (wich you most of the time wont reach due to fuel consumption)
lets say a R27ER is fired at you while you´re running.
That thing goes Mach 5, and 120km (effectively more like 80) - you wont outrun that with your pesky mach 1.3
Even sparrows easily reach mach 3-4 on the deck, this is not a feaseble strategy against BVR platforms.
What you could do is use your speed to increase your missiles ranges. This is the reason why the F15E is 14.0 and the F15C isnt.
You dont boom and zoom in the F15E - this playstyle isnt present in Warthunder top tier unless its a pure dogfight.
So you could use your speed to increase your BVR effectiveness (this is what makes the F15E more deadly than the F15C) but wait
In our little scenario of the 29A getting the R73 and loosing the ER the 29 doesnt benefit from speed at all!
you cant apply the logics of 9.0 BRs to 12.7-13.0
or in short:
Our hypothetical mig-29 doesnt benefit from being able to go mach 1.3, for a non BVR platform speed barely matters in a BVR enviroment.
i stopped playing the mig -29 cause i got the yak 141 + i just needed the mig-29 to get the gripen (eurofighter didnt exist yet). and i stopped playing the french f-16a because it got boring. chinese f-16 is not relevant, it gets a good radar. also i havent touched any of those planes other than the chinese f-16 in months
the azimuth is not useable, the maximum scan size is 50° while the F16s is 120°
TWS barely matters for this scenario since in this case the 29 wouldnt have ERs and wouldnt benefit from ERs
(neither does the F16a bl10 tho, so I dont really get why youd need TWS to begin with)
the american F4U’s at 3.0 have better engines than the Japanese F4U-1A and that is a fact
so why are they at the same BR even tho they have better engines than the japanese one?
That economic data is also affected by player skill, since better players earn more. This is why the Amx-13 FL11 is 4.3 despite being worse than the 3.7 M24.
That’s a very simplified way of looking at it, and I don’t think that’s entirely true. Speed is important, but it’s not entirely tied to survivabilty. Also, the Mig-29 isn’t super fast, especially since it can only go fast for 4-5 minutes before it runs out of fuel.
As it stands the Mig-29G suffers hard from Br compression at rank 8, but it should not move down (many other planes should move up instead). I already said how easy that is to do and gave an example, but Gaijin would never listen.
The other Mig-29s with just R-73s and R-27Rs are not good enough to be 13.0, and will be fine at 12.7 right now.
TWS matters even without any radar missiles… I had so many kills with the F-16A MLU by catching stray jets off guard with orbital 9L launches back when they could actually have decent range.
TWS will help you with awareness and positioning. R-27R will still benefit from it.
