Huge upgrade where? basically half the amount of countermeasures, 2 less arh missiles, no R-27’s slighty better fm. only thing really better about it would be the r-77-1
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Imagine something that can help it then. Double row CM dispensers exist IRL on MiG-29M models, so gaijin took them for 29K. If there is actual way to increase CMs for J-15T then you have to find it. Not some theoretical proposals and such, actual equipment.
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Perhaps we can look forward to the 2026 China Zhuhai Airshow, where the J-15T will be on display in a static format on the ground. At that time, we might be able to get the answer.
Would be a great way to look at it, true. Hopefully something good will be there to pull China into more competitive state at top tier.
Found this photo of the 941 MiG from MAKS 2017 that clearly shows an R27 compatibility.
Wonder if they accept a personal blog as a source
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no, we tried already using this photo. They still denied it
and the blog probably falls under a third party source so i dont think they will take it
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Photo’s from blogs are accepted iirc
they already said it was a 9.31 instead of 9.41 (9.41 ingame)
The flight no. is clearly seen, especially in the next photo of the series.
It seems the report got declined due to the lack of source for the same photo. Community Bug Reporting System
From those 3 options, leaving it as is at 13.7 is the only fair one. 13.3 is too low for it, and 13.7 with R-77-1 would also be too OP.
My vote would be to move it to 14.0 with R-77-1 being added.
Currently, it belongs at 13.7, but I don’t have a reason to play it since the Mig-29M is a little better (2 more R-77 in place of 2 R-73 and faster FM)
I also prefer the Mig-29M over the Su-27SM, it has the ability to carry 8 ARH like the 27SM but the radar iseasier to deal with to keep decent situational awareness, the loss of 4x extra R-73 is not a big deal since gatewidth IRCCM is very nerfed.
The su-27SM, Mig-29M, Mig-29KR all belong at 13.7 with the current BR compression. The 29KR being worse than the su-27sm is not enough reason to put it at 13.3, and its not even a bad 13.7 jet
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Can we put all the f16s that carry fox 3 to 13.3 then?
BRs are too compressed to allow the best 13.7 to be separated from the worst 13.7. Same with 13.3 and 13.0 etc.
There are a few cases of vehicles that deserve to be moved up or down with the current BR compression, though, but for the most part, there’s nothing we can do without decompressing BRs
I would keep it as is, with 14.0 being reserved for the upcoming MiG-35. Airframes in Russian service use same mechanical Zhuk radar, so placing it above 14.0 wouldn’t be ideal. And it is much better than MiG-29KR, featuring much lighter airframe, MAW and LWS, as well as improved CAS capabilities including Kh-38
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F16s all carry 6 max missiles.
All have similar FMs
CM count all over the place like the migs
13.3 f16s are just 13.7s with no HMD. Much stonger argument than the mess of the flankers and migs all being 13.7.
Mig 29s, SMT has the most CMs, 13.7s migs- 2 more missies better FM/ no r27s.
Id put every fox 3 f16(not aesa) and mig29 to.13.3 as like you say theres no where for them to go… game needs consistancy
There are different ones. Block50 and block40 are the best and worst of the spectrum, and is like comparing the MiG-29M to the MiG-29 SMT.
Yeah… It’s an ever bigger range, from 45 to 195. The CM count is a very big hindrance in some variants.
The F-16D has HMD and 165 CM’s and is arguably the strongest 13.3 F-16, the block40 FM isn’t much worse than the block15 and having almost 4x the CM count goes a long way… derby is a sidegrade but suffers from similar tracking issues as the PL-12
The game needs consistency, I agree. That’s why most of them can’t go down to 13.3. It would be unfair for the current 13.3 jets with the exception of the 13.3 flankers
The only ones that could potentially go down are the block 15 variants with 45 CM’s. So just the F-16A OCU and the 3 copy pasted F-16AM variants.
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The f16 NETz mod set the standard, double the CMs of the NETz yet same BR
Consitancy seems impossible. Pick a number is where we are at.
Problem is that the premium netz can’t be moved above the worse TT one, or the even worse F-16A in the US TT, because of BR compression. Its not good enough for 12.7
Its always BR compression! lol
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Other comment, put R-27ER/ET and still with the R-77
Indeed we need the R-27ER feels so bad to use a Mig-29 without a R-27ER