Here’s a glimpse of how bad the ICE actually is…
…which is why nobody plays it.
And here’s why…
So, in short, ICE can’t run, can’t climb and can’t turn (at BR13), so even an AIM120 can’t make up for a shitty launch.
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at least the ICE gets Agile Eagle. Look at the F-4EJ Kai with worse turn rate
Cool story. Kai is BR12.3, though.
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yeah and is in the same SB BR bracket that the F-4F ICE is in soooo
also the regular F-4F has a digital RWR witch is really powerful in SB. sooo seems to me you are having a bit of skill issue.
But is 2 steps lower, meaning it doesn’t see F15 and F16, unlike ICE who sees F15/16 every time it spawns.
Yeah, I’M having a skill issue. :D
What about Germany getting multiple stuff from other nations (mainly US and USSR)?)
If all you can do is look at graphs… Sure it sucks. But the reality is it has the kit and enough capability to be oppressive as hell.
And now that there is actually jets for me to grind in the German tree I’ll play it again since the modification bonus won’t go to waste. I can generate 5+ to 1 KD ratios in it all night for you if you’d like.
Yeah, F4F-ICE might not be winning a gunfight vs F-16, but AMRAAM + Aim-9Li + Decent radar + decent RWR + Supersonic, its one of the best armed and equipped aircraft at that BR and holds a notable advantage in at least 1 key way over every single aircraft at that BR
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The ting is, this is Sim EC! The average ape flying the F-16 can and will lose to an ICE, even in a gunfight. And I’ve done it several times with only stock performance mods.
It’s not some ARB 1v1 neutral merge Duel.
It’s called nuance, and clearly he’s not arguing with any of it.
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Yeah, I once won a 1v2 in a stock FA2 vs a Mig-29G and a Su-27. Was rather emberrasing for them.
But yeah, ICE is 100% playable and probably even the meta aircraft at that BR at the moment in the hands of a capable pilot. Not really playing that bracket much with the unfinished nature of the FA2, but really not looking forward to FA2 vs ICE fights if/when they do. Thats gunna be an uphill battle and really jealous that the F3 Late didnt move down as well
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Honestly the ICE shouldn’t have moved down in the first place. Playing it in 13.7/14.0 isn’t even that bad once you get the missile mods. The only time I was “struggling” was when I had less magazine depth than the MiG-29G.
Yeah. It really shouldnt have. Or at the very least, should have moved back as soon as the Typhoon was added. Im fully prepared to wait for a 12.3-13.3 bracket (which could be sooner rather than later) to play the F3 Late (but really hope we get Phimats soon)
But yeah, the 3 other AMRAAM slingers all have notable weakness (FA2/AV-8B+ are subsonic and the Viggen has a weak RWR and no IRCCM) and so have a reason to be 13.0. ICE really doesnt.
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Cool story, so when the F14 goes to BR13.0, or 13.3 then?
When is F4E going to 11.0, or 11.3?
When is F4U4B going to 6.7?
etc.
etc.
No you can’t. You already “generated” 1.33 kill ratio at a whopping 12% (TWELVE %) Win rate. :D
Cmon man, you’re a joke.
Let me reiterate…the “enough” ICE at 13.0 has a kill ratio of 1, while Mig29G without any ARH, also at 13.0, is doing 1.37. Any plane you put there and give it AIM120 WILL score something and there will always be sycophants that will claim, it’s “enough”…BUT, is it?
Let that sink in for a minute while observing Mig29G stats.
Which is from playing it at 13.3 and in GSB, I’ve had 1 game in a 13.0 match and didn’t even have the 120 mod unlocked yet. But I’m sure you added the couple of A2G kills into the KD right? Since of S1 deaths are counted, the kills might be as well? Or do you have some fantasy capability to separate air and ground battle stats?
Winrate is irrelevant to the jets capability. F-15/F-16/F-111 taking full Napalm has more effect on match result than any fighter.
Ohh so you have another fantasy capability to say that was played in the 13.0 bracket? Try again, that’s in the 13.7 bracket bub
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Don’t care…
No, it’s not.
Winrate is a product of your engagement in the game.
The more you do the higher the WR, the lower the kill ratio.
Didn’t play many ECs, did you?
I’m not spending another month in timeout just to explain how stupid you are for this comment
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Yeah, you don’t have to. You’re overall WR (in various TTs) in SB says all about your level of play, even when you don’t speak.
If you can’t separate WR from stats you’re more lost than I thought. No wonder you think the German tree need an F-16. LMAO
You could be getting 20 kills per game every game, if you don’t have a team (as is common for redfor at that BR) then you’re gonna lose badly.
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