Please Give Us Back the Original Panther II, Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian," and Tiger II 10.5cm KwK

Suggestions are approved all the time. Thats why many thousands that follow the guidelines have been: Suggestions - War Thunder — official forum

As is made clear in the section area, you need only to contact a suggestion moderator to find out why a suggestion may not be approved.

Im afriad this also just is not true. There are frequently multiple patches and updates a week, including many reports created by players: Updates - Game - War Thunder

Thats not including major updates, which themselves typically contain on average around 1000 fixes, corrections and items from player made reports and feedback all in all.

Once again, I would recommend both our changelog, to see the weekly changes that go through, the “its fixed series” that all come from players ideas and feedback, not just reports.

As well as the implemented area of suggestions.

Across all of these areas, you will see there is actually a very significant amount changed directly due to feedback.

Speaking of that. I recall that you mentioned a while back when I asked that Gaijin wasn’t ruling out any additional variants of the Panther, including a more historical version of the Panther II Is that still the case?

Also, is there any chance Gaijin could share what sources they used to determine that the Ostwind II was built? Perhaps something similar to the occasional posts Gaijin puts out regarding specific major questions, like how they model modern vehicles, etc? Maybe address why Historians like Hillary Doyle believe it was a vehicle that Germany lacked the capacity to build?

On a similar note, do you know if Gaijin has any plans to either correct the name of the Zerstörer 45 or at least implement the finalized Wirbelwind-esque variant of the Zerstörer 45 that was also allegedly built (has about as much evidence as the Ostwind II for being built, granted).

We definitely dont rule it out. But there is nothing in any immediate plans to speak of.

Reports are more than welcome for any historical evidence to correct the name of the vehicle (or any other changes to it). But outside of a forwarded report, there are no plans to speak of currently for any planned changes.

1 Like

Maybe the Gaijin Team could get in touch with @Armen_Lozone because they are doing interesting work on this at WT Live:

But my stance remains the same in this regard:

1 Like

I am confused, is the CV90195 TML not a real vehicle?

Not with the turret it had originally, as far as I know.

Don’t see any major differences though, unless they’re internal.
image
image

1 Like

Strange, this is all the Old Wiki says about this:

Maybe you’re confused? There are two variants, the version with the TML turret and the one Gaijin replaced it with using the XC-8 turret. PercussionCap claims the TML version that Gaijin originally added was “not real” and yet it looks identical to photos of the real thing which is why I was questioning that claim.

I found this after some searching, I guess PercussionCap was right, the vehicle in that configuration was inaccurate:

1 Like

Ah, that makes sense then. Sucks that Gaijin chose to replace it instead of adding the XC-8 version as a separate vehicle, as without the stab and thermals the TML version could have actually been put at a different RB entirely.

1 Like

I remembered something was wrong about the original 90105 but couldn’t quite remember what it was, so there you go. There’s still a chance we see the TML sometime in the future.

2 Likes

Because it’s so hard for the moderator to tell why a report wasn’t approved?

“Hey I noticed you spent X hours writing this suggestion, but I can not approve it unless you change this and that.”

No, I need to contact a Mod, who then has to find out why another Mod didn’t approve my report.
What logic is that?

So I can’t make a suggestion saying move the Sherman II to 3.3 and remove T45 APCR but I can make a suggestion of just saying “Remove T45 APCR from the Sherman II”? because how dare I, suggesting a BR change that makes sense in the same sentence?

Makes me wonder what exactly stopped my suggestiona about implementing incendiary filler from being approved like three times now.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/AyCoq2Bai3nc

Create a suggestion → Nothing. Create a report on incorrect implemented game mechanics → Pls create a suggestion. Very funny.

Unfortunately due to the number of suggestions submitted, yes, it is sadly impractical to send a PM to each and every person on why a suggestion was not approved. The guidelines are often the primary factor, in that they were not followed.

For reports, a reason is always given on the closure of the report.

BR changes and suggestions have and will always be handled in the BR update feedback topics. Otherwise the suggestions section will simply be spammed with a multitude of topics on the same vehicle, going either up or down.

Ok, what do you do when you message one of the suggestion moderators and they outright lie to you about your post breaking the guidelines? And then you message the senior moderators and one of them repeats the lie and the other ignores the message? Who is there to go to next?

1 Like

Or when you just get straight up ghosted, lol.

The final escalation point would be a PM to myself if you have an unresolved matter taken first through the Suggestion Moderators and then Senior Suggestion Moderators. However if a case has already been reviewed by the Seniors, it is unlikely to be a “lie”. More there is a misunderstanding at hand.

Gaijin has said a lot of things, such as no “Top Tier Premiums” or “No supersonic jets”, but here we are.

There are now 6 of these permanently out of the game. Quite simply, why does it matter to remove them? Sure, they’re fake, but they’re the backbone of some lineups, which many players can no longer get and use. The Japanese had their fun fighter aircraft replaced with a C&P strike aircraft no one cares about.

The Tiger 2 [10.5cm], Panther 2, Flakpanzer 341, and all the R2Y2 are fun. Why can’t a game like War Thunder be more fun?

There is no true realism in War Thunder, and I’d rather see more variety at 7.0 than “M48”.

3 Likes

If I spoke my own language my message would probably be deleted but when a Chinese player speaks their own language nothing happens because gaijin sucks at Chinese people

I’ll Pm you then.