Please Give Us Back the Original Panther II, Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian," and Tiger II 10.5cm KwK

I have the only argument. They were removed for being fake and aren’t coming back.

The previous variant was, it had a bubble canopy or something like that, which was not real, or atleast there was no such version in German hands. So they replaced it with the German Premium P-47 we now have.

https://wiki.warthunder.com/P-47D_(Germany)

https://wiki.warthunder.com/P-47D-16-RE_(Germany)

Again you are ignoring what i am asking you, you dont have an agrument, you have a stace or position. You havent explained why you have that stance though.

I believe war Thunder should represent actual military vehicles to the most accurate level possible. The Panther II, Tiger II 10.5 and Coelian do not do that.

A mistake isn’t a fake vehicle. It’s not a P47 with a jet engine.

But you dont want to see them removed from the game…

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They are removed from the game. The people that have them are keeping them, just like many other vehicles removed from the game. We researched them and purchased them. Many people did so using golden eagles. Gaijin doesn’t compensate for removing things, so we get to keep them.

I actually have these, but I agree with your well laid out points. They absolutely should never have been removed. If they need to stay gone, then they need to start clearing up the rest that have the same issue of not existing fully, or not fully functional, etc.

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They do actually, it has never been done with vehicles but when modifications are removed, the Sl and GE if spent is all compensated.

But that also begs the question, if all the SL and GE and RP was compensated, would you then want them to be removed completely?

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I got a compensation this friday because that Lord Stratchons horse decal in the Leopard 2A4M CAN pack had to be removed. Got a snow Leopard (?) decal instead.
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Yeah they gave people 200GE and a different decal on top

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the F-16AJ isn’t a fake vehicle though it does exist as it was proposed to be an export model to japan though that proposal fell through the modifications were made to the F-16 for the sale to japan they never got to test the plane or the modifications the R2Y2s will get removed when replacements are found to replace them the Yak 141 does exist now its armaments are a different story so once vehicles are found to replace fake tanks/ planes the fake ones will be removed for anything fake with naval they have to use a different method for it to be in game

Great, so we’re on the same page. Don’t remove them.

And no, gaijin won’t compensate so that’s not a discussion worth having.

But if they are not removed entirely, then all players should be allowed to get them. Because seeing some vehicles you are never allowed to get is unfair. It gives the owners more options and better lineups, while we got “replacements” at completely different ranks that are either totally rotten like the M48 or completely fake like the Ostwind II that is much weaker than the Coelian.

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SPOOKSTON WHY!!!

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Mein Herz brennt

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You are avoiding the question again, Gaijin literally have compensated people for things like this in the past, but even if you dont think they will, if they were going to would you be ok with them being removed? Simple question, out of principle.

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Everyone had an equal chance to get them.

Sorry, but some bygone chance is not really fair nor a valid argument.

Every Player would have had to be in the picture on their removal, which was not the case.

Every player would have had to be active in WT early, either playing regularily or having a reliable source of Money. But this game is an ongoing process, people keep coming. They should not be punished for starting War Thunder “late”.

In such a developing Multiplayer MMO the chance can only be fair If it is a recurring one. So atleast once every year you have the same opportunity to get them as anyone else. This also allows breaks from War Thunder and is tolerant towards beginners/new players. I missed the Maus until November 2021, but I got my fair chance like those before me and got it. That was fair. And that is how the Panther II, Coelian and Tiger II 10 5 should be treated.

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Humble yourself. I have the only argument that they were available at some point, some players are still able to play them so everybody should be given a chance

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