They were in the Tech Tree and for those who have them, they still are:
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You still haven’t answered about this:
All I want is to understand your position, and what you would like gaijin to do with these vehicles. I understand you dont want them removed fully, probably because you have them and enjoy them given they are some of your most played vehicles, but you dislike the fact that they in the game because they are fake, and do not want anyone else to be able to get them. However you then said the above, which doesnt really make sense because the 2 vehicle types you mentioned are treated differently, so do you want noone else to be able to get them ever again? Or do you want there to be some way to get them, but only via gambling on lootboxes/purchasing for GE or off the market?
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I’ve made my position clear. They’re removed from research and should not come back. No loot boxes, no market, no events.
Ok, but you want people who have them currently to keep them? Does that not defeat the purpose of not having them come back if the objection you have is to their existence in the first place?
In fairness you did the opposite with this comment.
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Yes. People that have them can keep them, same as other vehicles that were limited, moved or removed.
What really baffles me personally is the stubbornness behind this Situation, not just from you but also the Gaijin people and players. Here is a quote from Smin, unfortunately I have no Screenshot of the original:
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"Smin1080p
Hello
Generally we are always looking at ways to make older event vehicles and past obtainable vehicles available again in some ways from time to time with a few exceptions (platform exclusives, promotional etc).
The German vehicles currently fall into those exceptions for the time being as they were removed for a reason (which we outlined at the time and you mentioned above). For the considerable foreseeable future, we don’t have any plans to return them right now.
That’s unfortunately all we can say on the matter right now."
Those vehicles were never part of an Event but Tech Tree and thus free for all to get. The exceptions, meaning realism, tested prototypes etc., have been relaxed by Gaijin themselves for a few years now. We have fakes like the F-16J or that were only partially completed (Yak-141) and so on.
So why, out of all these factors and exceptions of their own Rules, should the vast majority of us players step back and not get those vehicles back (German Trinity) or stay (R2Y2’S, Ho-Ri etc.)? Their own rules they break, fake environments to fight on (e.g. WW2 in modern settings), Era mixing etc.
So these vehicles are controversial? But we are expected to tolerate fighting on Maps with our 1940s Tanks surrounded by modern Wind Turbines and Cars from the 2000s? We can put a cake on our Tank but not obtain a former Tech Tree vehicle?
“Generally we are always looking at ways to make older event vehicles and past obtainable vehicles available again in some ways from time to time […]”
THIS should be the standard, nothing less.
Not “with a few exceptions” !
@T3ddy4, i’ll translate this for you : “Look how cool and exclusive my unfairly removed TT vehicles are and how much I’m a good player because i own them”
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Does that not defeat the purpose of not having them come back if the objection you have is to their existence in the first place?
Not at all. Look, I get it, you’re mad you don’t have them but don’t misrepresent my argument.
See, i’m trying to get you to explain your argument but you keep giving one sentence answers and ignoring parts of the questions I ask. You dont like that they exist in the game, but you dont want gaijin to remove them completely. Were you ok with them being added in the first place to fill the gap they did and actually still would? You have clearly used them a lot and enjoyed them to have played them so much, so would you rather that never been possible? The point i would make is that you dont like the fact that there are fake vehicles in the game, and want them to be unobtainable, but you dont want them to actually be removed. It doesnt really make sense.
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Basically hypocrisy.
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I’ve explained my argument. You not liking it doesn’t change my argument.
They are removed and should stay removed. Those that have time should be able to keep them.
Not at all. The hypocrisy is people wanting these tanks back but also denying other nations fake tanks of their own.
You have them or are okay with others having them, but you do not want others to have a fair Chance to obtain said vehicles. That is hypocrisy.
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I am against the removal/replacement of controversial vehicles in general. I do want the R2Y2’s to stay aviable unchanged, I want that German P-47 Thunderbolt they replaced to come back, the Swedish store Premium that was replaced with the CV 90 etc.
No hypocrisy here.
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Just that shows how happy you are to flex them… besides you don’t have any arguments, that is the problem.
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So, basically people other than us 3? At least i know for a fact Richtofen122 is agaisnt the removal of the R2Y2s.
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Whether i like it or not isnt really relevant, and i havent included my opinion in the questions i have asked you.
It isnt really an argument you have, it is a position. you have explained what you want to happen, but not why. I understand your position, what i was asking is why have you come to that, and is your logic not flawed in terms of the ultimate goal you have. You have continued to completely ignore what i am asking.
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Everyone had the same chance to obtain them. Gaijin announced well in advance they would be removed.
The German P47 isn’t a fake vehicle. The Swedish vehicle was a mismodel. The R2Y2 doesn’t have stable replacements available.
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