Doesn’t make sense why they would be so stubborn about something like that, if it wasn’t intended for a “usual turn fight” then what did they expect people to use the extra AOA for?? Why even implement such a feature if you’re going to leave it completely unrefined once released, and why limit the tvc nozzle movement for the Su-30sm unless using the AOA toggle if it’s not meant for “usual turn fights”, just doesn’t make sense lmao.
Mmmhmm…So we think a Su-30 could defeat 2 Typhoons…
And defeat it in BVR when the SU-30 is only using the R-77 missile and Typhoon has Meteor? and the Su-30 has RCS the size of a small town?
Sometimes we do wargames and mock exercises to determine our potential weaknesses and not to outright destroy defeat everything.
R-37M* with double the range of meteor and eft mechanical radar vs su30 pesa
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yea that its the BS video i talked before. After india refute these claims USAF don’t even try to follow.
You can even read on the comment how some people are calling BS on his claims. There are some true. Like Indian did do FF. But that was mostly because india decide not to used Bars radar.
Russian not Indian. India have R-77 and the potential ASTRA/Meteor integration.
R-37M is a scary missile, but it still requires a DL to achieve it’s maximum range.
its one of the best mods made for DCS they took the real life numbers and created a plane
Physics
that “one of the best mods” doesnt have proper FM.
How do you know?
Did you fly a su30?
Do you have an EM-chart or did you do aerodynamic simulations like codename Flanker?
i flown clownie30 dcs edition, thats enough to understand that FM is bad. even on ground lol
so you dont have any credintals and are just making claims
ok then whats bad about it?
ITR or maybe STR
IDK about exact values. Maybe would download such a bad mod again… to break DCS again
you still didnt say why it is bad.
all iam hearing rn is “It is bad because I dont like it”
when plane flies literally like train on rails - smth not normal.
especially on ground
it does have its own flight model and can be compared to the base su27 by eagle dynamics
I did some calculations and found out that the su30sm is missing 40%of its wing area. When you fly 300kph at sea level with no payload 30%fuel the su30sm should only pull 5.0-5-4 deg AoA to not lose any altittude, hehe in war thunder it needs to pull 10.1 deg AoA so it loses so much lift like its missing 40%of its wings. I calculated all of that with public Information and the DCS mod from codename Flanker also only needs to pull 5.0-5.4 deg AoA at sea level and 300kph to not lose any altittude
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the su-30sm in real life can’t compete with f-22 in dogfights
source: physics
Theres one more source maybe - red dlag with India.
But not sure about dogfights of Su-30 and F-22 tbb
Tylon > world
Tbh depends on pilot