eh, idk, i’m sure gaijin wouldn’t accept a bug report based on these sources
for example, although the website gives us 25 degrees of STR, it also says that the su30 has 1.40 of TWR and I have no idea how this is possible since the su30 is fat and the al-31fp is weak, maybe 1.40 with 10% of fuel lol
gaijin could also fix the cobra button, that thing forces horizontal flight for some reason, sometimes making aiming very annoying
Honestly, all I think it needs in game is to go back to pre nerf flight performance, have more tvc angle in mouse aim, and be more stable at low speeds, because right now the tvc is practically non existent unless using the AOA toggle, and when you do use it at low speeds it turns into a fidget spinner and goes everywhere except where you want it to go lol
Those numbers are probably based off of information with the upgraded AL41 engines, I think, and sure it’s fat, but it also has tvc and canards, just sayin
Honestly I think it’d be a good idea to implement these aircraft with their peak technology in game, like the aim120c for the f-15c and f-15e, upgraded engines like the su27sm and maybe the su30 in the future, and hopefully the 9x for the f-16 f-15c f15e and the hornet and upgraded r-73s for the Russians, maybe one day even meteors for the f-2000
but the su30mki doesn’t have al-41… that’s the problem, su30mki is from 2006 or something (you can consider su30sm also from that time, since it’s literally the same plane, excluding new fbw system and other small things that are not relevant for wt) so idk how that thing could have 1.40 of twr
Could be beefed up numbers, could be underestimated, it’s up for speculation honestly, neither you nor I can give a definite answer
Either way, this specific argument about the engines is besides my point of the post, but I see what you’re saying, it’s not decisive enough for gaijin to actually change anything about the flight model, but there are many technical things I think they could change about the aircraft and its optimization in game to indirectly help it out in flight performance, including the buggy AOA toggle and how they nerfed it like 4 times before it even reached the live server, tbh they should’ve just kept it as is🤷♂️
People complained about it being too good, which to me is ridiculous that people complained about a super-maneuverable aircraft being too super maneuverable, it happened to the Rafale, it happened to the F-2000, the MiG-29, the JAS39 and many others, if they decompressed the battle ratings they wouldn’t have to artificially nerf these aircraft to “balance” the game
In addition to that, I’ve also noticed that the plane’s roll rate gets neutered when it is active.
yeah, I tried to make a bug report about this, but gaijin said this:
if this was fixed it would help everyone who got the cobra button as you could actually aim and not fight the will of the plane
Doesn’t make sense why they would be so stubborn about something like that, if it wasn’t intended for a “usual turn fight” then what did they expect people to use the extra AOA for?? Why even implement such a feature if you’re going to leave it completely unrefined once released, and why limit the tvc nozzle movement for the Su-30sm unless using the AOA toggle if it’s not meant for “usual turn fights”, just doesn’t make sense lmao.
Mmmhmm…So we think a Su-30 could defeat 2 Typhoons…
And defeat it in BVR when the SU-30 is only using the R-77 missile and Typhoon has Meteor? and the Su-30 has RCS the size of a small town?
Sometimes we do wargames and mock exercises to determine our potential weaknesses and not to outright destroy defeat everything.
R-37M* with double the range of meteor and eft mechanical radar vs su30 pesa
yea that its the BS video i talked before. After india refute these claims USAF don’t even try to follow.
You can even read on the comment how some people are calling BS on his claims. There are some true. Like Indian did do FF. But that was mostly because india decide not to used Bars radar.
Russian not Indian. India have R-77 and the potential ASTRA/Meteor integration.
R-37M is a scary missile, but it still requires a DL to achieve it’s maximum range.
its one of the best mods made for DCS they took the real life numbers and created a plane
Physics
that “one of the best mods” doesnt have proper FM.
How do you know?
Did you fly a su30?
Do you have an EM-chart or did you do aerodynamic simulations like codename Flanker?
i flown clownie30 dcs edition, thats enough to understand that FM is bad. even on ground lol
