Please buff the AV-8s

9.7?? it cant dog fight anything and aim9ps arent even all aspect, whilst facing r60mks

you have 2 free kills against flareless planes with AIM-9P and R-60M is at least 0.6 higher BR than you

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It could be a lot worse, the AV-8S at 9.7 is one of the strongest 9.7 aircraft currently, perticularly when compared to the other 4 Harriers at the same BR. (240 CMs vs the 60 of the GR3 and AV-8C and the none of the GR1, so defending against R-60s could be a LOT worse) and the best RWR of them all. Aim-9Ps compare fairly reasonably with Aim-9Gs so there is no difference there.

They cannot really go any lower currently, due to their high subsonic nature, good acceleration and flares.

But the Harriers are not without issue, all of them have a very looooooooong list of outstanding bug reports that the Devs dont really seem to want to address and 9.7 is one of the BRs that is heavily impacted by compression.

So TLDR… there isnt really anything that can be done currently, unless Gaijin decides they can be bothered to look at the Harriers

the only thing i can think of within the realm of possibility, is allowing the 9P carrying AV-8s have the AIM-9P-4 which is all aspect, and the ones with the Gs, have Ls, of which may be busted but they are still limited to 2 missiles max for the AV-8A/C platforms

Little reason for them to not join the Sea Harrier FRS1e with 2x Aim-9Ls at 10.7 and that is a truly rough BR for the Harrier 1 airframe currently.

The various FM buffs + fixing the heat signature and a few other miscellaneous items would be the safer bet

yeah, like multiple aircraft, its just stuck were it is due to BR compression, can’t raise it, then it would just get dogged on, can’t lower it or it would be similar to the F-104A/C situation

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Yeah, exactly

lol no, this would mean 10.7 br minimum

these harriers do fine at 9.7, this game isnt solely about dogfighting.

Irl, it was an extremely capable dogfighter, and had tiny IR emissions. iirc, just angling the nozzles 30° down was enough to make Aim-9Ls unable to lock it rear aspect.

All of this has been bug reported, but since it’s not Russian, all the reports either got “Not a bug,” despite LITERALLY USING OFFICIAL MILITARY DOCUMENTS, or got the “Accept 2 years ago” treatment.

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