It is not about implying reporting is bad, it is never was. But people tend to associate smallest thing with their belief and report it , even if it is fine. But if you got a problem with it then:
Not talking about outright facist symbol and stuff , that gaijin do care about and actually punish people for larping too hard but for the smallest stuff ? Like “Z” symbol for example ? Yeah no bro
Im saying you have to deal with it 100x more than you are now.
Z is what caused us to get them removed, and the 30 sec chat cooldown that was removed recently. Ppl tking or ramming each other and yelling in chat if a ukie flag and Z met in spawn.
Yeah , instead of disabling other people decal , they commit tking and griefing just because the other vehicle have something that they don’t like. We can’t have nice stuff because of certain people
Same arguement for chat and refusing to mute people in most recent games, it will go nowhere, and devs always take the side of crybabies or just nuke the ability to communicate at all.
I’ve reported a fair share of these bozos, sparingly and only when extreme, continued hate is displayed. And yet I haven’t received any notifications of action being taken on my reports.
Matter of fact, I have only received 1 notification of action being taken on my reports, ever since this notification thing was implemented more than half a year ago in Sept 2024. Despite having reports in the double digits on hate speech in general since then (Yes, this is how prevalent it is). It’s unknown to me as to whether this is due to the notification system being broken, not notifying in case of minor punishment, or action simply not being taken. But the result is clear: hate and foul speech is prevalent in chat.
Top tier Air RB chat is probably the worst in terms of it.
I know that as a staff member, you (both necessarily and naturally) tend towards a positive view of the game. That contrasts heavily with what many players see, and many particularly think the strength of WT moderation is lacking.
The thing is that the “Z” symbol is banned in some countries, just like the Swastika. Thus, they’ve got the same treatment from Gaijin…
Pretty sure no , they don’t get the same treatment because X country ban A. Gaijin could not give half a fig about those. What matter is what people do when they see X in a battle. Not even talking about what the thing associate with , the fact that they went out of their way to teamkill and grief other people , leading to the situation escalate , gaijin would not want to do that. For swastika that is not even in the game and you will be damn sure that gaijin will punish people who make that symbol. The “Z” case in this situation does not hold the same weight as the latter.
“Waah I can’t put fascist images on my planes!!” - is what the core motivation is. On the surface these people may seem like the mature ones, because aren’t the other side, the people who are speaking out against hatred, the ones who shout and aggravate?
This viewpoint demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of morality. Imagine a man shouting racist and murderous slogans in public. Seeing many people violently take issue with him, he says “Why are you angry at me? You can just cover your ears if you don’t like what I am saying. You’re immature and violent because you are mad at me”. Now who is correct?
If you answered the man shouting hateful speech, you are almost certainly influenced by specific cultural concepts found in some areas of the world. You may mention - freedom and liberty. Freedom of speech, he has a right to say what he thinks in public. Or individuality - people should be encouraged to be special and different. Or the concept of law and order - attacking a person for their ideals is wrong no matter the context.
This is a unique perversion of concepts which seem pure at heart. Lies often contain a kernel of truth, after all. But if you look at the situation objectively - why should free speech ever be absolute? Why should this man’s racist and violent views be protected, and his right to spew hateful speech be worshipped like a divine right of the people? Why is dissenting action, however righteous, always so demonized and put down? I encourage you to think about these questions.
Ok man calm down , I am not ready for wall of text. First of all , I do not agree with whatever the far right , extremist,… in anything. I want to be free and I would like it to stay that way. I don’t think he said “I can’t put facist symbol on my vehicle because people gonna cry about it”. Pretty sure he did not say that. What he meant is the playerbase mentally to associate real life event instantly then proceed to pick the worst outcome possible, that is to team kill and griefing. He did not vow for the “Let me put far right symbol on my vehicle” , he was criticizing the playerbase for picking the worst answer for the mildest situation.
And for the whole far right thing , that is left to the report system and the moderator. What we were talking about is the milder one (Rus flag/Ukr flag,“Z” symbol,…). The more general cases that lead to number/letter being disabled. Not the extreme stuff you talking about
Actually they do because they have to…
There’s no Z either afaik and as confirmed above by a GM, they do punish players…
I can understand accounting for player conflict, but he emphasized it so much so that the actual issue was minimalized.
In my opinion, player conflict and unrest from extreme political views would be kept to a minimal level, if Gaijin increased the efficiency of the censorship-moderation in the game (which is currently at an unacceptably low level). This improvement would turn allow for more player freedom, counterintuitively. It’s a rather simple fix - but it would require more employees, paid or not, more time; this is the logical reason it has not been done.
Maybe , I don’t know because even the reason I offered is also speculate but that could also be one of the big reason cause it might hurt their revenue.
There were letter number iirc back in the days , so yes. There were
The main thing he wanted to criticize is the playerbase role in getting the number/letter removed. Not he was defending the far right symbol or the content of the decal themself. He was mainly focus on their action when they meet A or B in a match and chose to team kill and grief the other player. Instead of reporting them or in milder case disable decal and blocking other player.
Back in the days before russians invaded Ukraine, the “Z” symbol didn’t exist and therefore wasn’t banned in some countries…
they make it using the Number 1 decal
Obviosly not the people taking “violent” issue. Times change what people consider moral (no one would blink an eye at this stuff 20 years ago do you remember old CoD lobbies or cs/dota?), and if its OK today to enact violence against “facists” then what happens when these people are the cultural norm in x years time? Im sure they wont have any greivances to settle.
Not everyone thinks the same, tho if you never leave your hugboxes you would think only a small minority of uneducated hicks are.
“Good guys” just tend to be whoever wins, im interested to see if the west just does a complete 180 on russia if they win and act like they didnt treat them like nazi germany for years, and just come up with propaganda on why ukraine was actually the bad guys.
Right now the left has completely taken over most internet and gaming spaces so im basically just a comic book villian for even daring to type this.
At the end of the day gaijin is going to do whatever makes them the most money, and nuking decals to avoid the situation and a deluge of in game harrasment and reports is the easiest path.
Many political beliefs, even if not necessarily the best, can be tolerated under the idea of political freedom. However, there are some ideologies which call for illogical and unnecessary violence. Does that mean using violence to suppress these beliefs is equally wrong? Of course not. Violence is a non-optimal but nonetheless necessary tool in society. Every state holds the monopoly on violence (police, military, etc) which is necessary to protect itself and the people (latter is variable). You can understand this, can you not? Bandits and police both use violence. The morality of it doesn’t depend on this use of violence, but the necessity, reason and result of it. For example, one could possibly see US intervention in countries as necessary to protect itself and lead to the spread of democracy.
Similarly, words can be as dangerous as physical violence. Words can be used to aggravate, to slander; this directly leads to violence. If dangerous ideology is allowed to flourish and infect the minds of the people, unnecessary tragedy and death will result, as seen in multiple times throughout history.
This logic is one that comes from complete ignorance of history. Why did the Cold War period even happen? USSR was one of the winners of WW2 after all, why has it in decades since been portrayed negatively by the West?
Lmao. Also, I am not opposing you for your political beliefs system, given I don’t even know what they are. I’m concerned with the message expressed and your disagreement with adding number decals. This is merely a long tangent which has originated from your bad reasoning used to support your point.