Also, allow Air tech tree grinding through helicopter RP
Hey everyone who’s already replied or voted on the first poll, just a quick follow-up because of all the backlash over Gaijin’s recent changes in 2.55.1.42.
A lot of players (myself included) aren’t happy with several of the tweaks, so I’ve thrown up a second poll attached to the original post. If you want to see any of those unpopular changes rolled back, please take a second to vote. It only takes a moment and helps show the community’s actual feelings on this.
What if I’m happy with it and ppl should also learn to contribute to Osa removal? if you want TDM, Air RB already exists
Id also revert the SPAA buffs that made them all OP
Good for you that you liked the changes, I guess, but your argument only goes so far:
Want to remove Osas & ground units in general? Ground modes already exist for that, and you can also ground pound in air already, you can even go for the main airfield if you want to face strong SPAA. Nothing that already didn’t exist before. Redundancy.
What does not exist anymore as of yesterday? A fast respawn + fast action with realistic rule set for air combat. People complaining about furballs were COMPLETELY FREE to not join the furballs, did anyone threaten them that they had to do it? Nop, no one did. They could spawn at the furthest airfield, fly all the way to the border of the map, then fly back to the middle of the map if they so wished to waste their lives alt+tabbing instead of playing. They could take bombs and not join furballs at all, they could spend whole matches killing AI – and I’d support more points for that, if that’s their thing… but the catch is, nop, they gotta whine and make the event a boring hassle for the 90% that did like realistic rules but don’t like wasting 10 mins flying to the middle of the map.
Welp, what I saw yesterday while grinding the 5th (and last, for me) stars were longer queues, less people on the queues, all my matches were already half-way done from the lack of said people, targets were harder to find and all grinding problems that come associated with that, and I guess if I tried playing NT today all of that would be even worse. I wonder how many people just gave up on the event because of those changes, shame those stats will never come to light, but I’m guessing: a lot.
Dork. I’m not even using fighters. Don’t assume.
I’m taking issue with the damage they’ve done to the enjoyment of the mode, and you’re gullible to believe Gaijin’s lie here.
They did not “buff” CAS or SEAD rewards. They may give you 30 or so points extra over the original 90, but the spawns are significantly further back. In other words, it now takes longer to get to the battlefield, which means less score, and dying to an OSA is that much more frustrating.
Yes, players did only play Air to Air, but are you really that dumb to not realize it’s because attacking ground units gives you damn near nothing? Do you really think the solution to this problem is “nerf the one viable strat”.
The changes they made to this mode are just unacceptable. First of all, the fact that they havent nerfed the AA at all is insane. that is the biggest issue with the game mode.
Then people were having too much fun and getting too much SL, so they nerfed air rewards like crazy.
They moved the airfields to make it take longer for people to get rewards, and they increased the SP cost for small nukes to hurt the people trying to kill bases and ground targets.
The increased rewards for killing ground units, which should have been in place from the start.
Gaijin would rather watch their game become unplayable if they think it would make them a single extra dollar.
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30% increase = not a buff apparently
The Flank AFs barely moved back, only the central default spawn moved back noticeably
It wasn’t just “viable”, it was outright meta to spawn your cheese plane, get 18-19 kills and spawn a Tu-95/B-52
Gaijin tries to make the modes objectives distinct from TDM and grindbrains crash out
it’s glorious, mostly because I knew the realisation that it was just ARB with a killstreak was coming but this just makes it even funnier
people were doing air to air cause CAS sucked, and now that CAS gives decent rewards, people still do air to air cause all CAS results in is dying to an OSA or invisible roland. the mode is objectively garbage now, and noone wants it to see the light of day again.
Actually not hard to flatten these when you learn ARMs, the only issue I have is the sheer volume of Rolands and Osas since everything, from bases to a simple truck convoy spawns with one
called it
nothing about the mode changed that drastically, only A2A score
The balancing of US vs USSR is very unfair, Russia has the clear advantage especially in the higher BR bracket, if the US can’t have the Fakour 90, Russia shouldn’t be allowed to the R-27ER.
Real. Plus, the mig23’s radar is WAY better than the f4s at treetop level. As one guy in my chat said it, they could “lock me in a tunnel”. And idk if this is just me but I think the Osas are more powerful than the US’s version. Granted, I haven’t played the USSR’s side in a bit so idk if they changed stuff.
Osa is better because it has to reload less
Speed, range and G-pull too
They dont really the roland just keep shooting untill they run out of missiles, unless it was changed they could shot the 10 missiles in a row
ive only ever had them fire 2 in a row and miss most of the time
They moved the spawns further back and made the ground targets spawn less, so it isn’t a buff lol. Use your head.
They moved back an entire grid square. If the US strike aircraft were fast, that wouldn’t be an issue, but Russia has significantly faster aircraft at their disposal, which leads to the US falling behind quickly.
Then buff the damn ground kills. I never once saw a B-52 sooner than an hour in, and I played damn near 30 games of this mode.
How exactly is making the AI give about 120 score per kill reasonable when it takes more than 6 mavericks to even kill a single OSA?
You have to be rage-baiting people if you think making the game slower and more painful is somehow “more fun”. Did you forget this mode was supposed to be a FUN event? I don’t want to grind my teeth using 11.7 CAS aircraft, trying to just get the challenge done. I’ve seen tens of people already quit the event openly in Discord calls because of these changes alone, and you’re reply is seriously “skill issue”? What is wrong with you?
Gaijin has made it clear that they do not reward PVE gameplay over a decade in their game design. There is absolutely nothing fun about getting within 10km of an OSA after flying from an airbase for 3+ minutes and being obliterated in seconds after it takes down all of your missiles and bombs.
The OSA isn’t even capable of firing on the move to begin with, so I don’t even know why Gaijin has them doing so in the Event.
I have no qualms with the game requiring SEAD, because that was important to me, but the mode was a balance. It was equally opportunistic for EVERY type of aircraft. What Gaijin has done is make it slow for every jet, especially the subsonic US ones.
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lol
if anything that looks closer
truly ded gamemode
and there was already a ton of them, it kerbs the Respawning SAM Spam
Unironic skill issue
Jeez, you’re really shilling for Gaijin here. They make spawns further back, nerf the nukes, and you’re happy cause you get 30 extra score per ground kill?
It makes the mode slower. Instead of fixing the issue, they’re just killing the score potential.
You have a Skull issue.
Friendly reminder that the OSA can’t fire on the move.
I also love how you openly showed yourself having less than 500 SP 30 minutes into the game, and don’t even try saying you spent it, cause that SL says you didn’t. You also showed your teammates agreeing with me, and thousands of other people. The OSA ignores multipathing completely and doesn’t act as it is supposed to.
It clearly does? I still even have the clip since I died doing an overly ambitious nuke toss and respawned another nuke Phantom on the other side of the map, which is why the Phantom in that screencap is only showing the SP cost.
But continue headbutting Osas with an F-111 and raging about Gaijin moving the AF 1Km to the center