Hello everyone
I made the suggestion for the Obj416, and for those who dont know or couldnt tell, the turret was heavily inspired by the T54.
Now, the gun of the Obj-416 is the M-63, a variant of mid era D-10T cannons, which by that time fired HEAT-FS.
Now, we know that the Obj-416 was meant to be a tank destroyer, as it competed in the SU-100 tank destroyer competition, and whilst no source states it out loud, it is hinted and easy to assume it used, and was capable of firing 3BK-5.
Now i am not saying that the BR-412 is weak, but i do think it would be useful as a heavy AT round on uptiers, since it also wouldnt justify a br raise for the 416.
Another option could be the 3BM-8 APDS round, but it is a lot more vague, though gaijin usually doesnt care.
link for the wiki of the T-54 with mentioned rounds
3BK-5 and 3BM-8 are from the early and mid 60s respectively. They’re theoretically compatible, but wouldn’t they be out of place on the Obj. 416, seeing as it was cancled in the early 50s? Yes, the early T-54s do get them, but those at least stuck around in service. Even then, they’re kinda the reason those tanks are overtiered and I’d argue they shouldn’t have them either. They should’ve reserved those rounds for the later T-54A/B.
Since the Obj. 416’s turret is similar to the T-54s like you said, maybe the reload rate could be brought up to the same level, around 7.5 seconds?
from facing it, honestly seems like its actually well balanced as it is. HEAT would just put it into a BR where everyone is stabilised and it wont stand a chance. the APHE is also very respectable for the BR, it pens the tiger 2 H turret face and thats all thats required of an APHE to be more than enough
yea i did a little mix up.
There is a source stating “A new type of armor piercing shell was in development, though the object 416 never got to use it as it was cancelled prior”.
I think it is referring to the HEAT but maybe a different early variant, i really dont know nor can i confirm this statement
About the reload it technically should be a little faster, if i remember correctly around 8r/m
And it isn’t really similar as much as the best option, the M-63 was a directly upgraded D-10T (the gun of the T-54) and the design bureau wanted to not take to much risk, so they modified the T-54 turret design a little, only adding the back stowage area and changing dimensions here and there.
the early turret (which could be a event variant/ premium) was very different, offering -5 depression as it was just the D-10T/early M-63
Notes: I know it didn’t use it historically, this post isn’t to take side just to offer an option and to see the general public idea of the Obj-416 since i love it, and as vehicle rounds are currently given in game (a big mess with no regard to history) it is not completely impossible
… should be even faster actually.
The Object 416 has a swiveling loader seat and a very convenient ready rack, with a second ready rack that can be slid over the first one. All of these rounds are stored vertically in the same orientation, which makes it easier for the loader to develop muscle memory. The T-54/55 stores rounds in alternating orientations that requires ever other round to be manipulated differently.
The Object 416 also has the major advantage of a loading tray and rammer, which makes the process of loading the round into the gun much easier on the loader.
With this in mind, I’d argue a reload as fast as 6 seconds is fair game.
